Can a narcissist be codependent?

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All narcissists are codependent, they can't be alone. Always needing someone to feel good about themselves.

nosockaccounts
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I don’t even need to watch this video. And I can answer this question. Yes absolutely 1000%

nonavandre
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If there's one thing I've learned from being out of a very controlling marriage it's that I am becoming more and more happy to validate myself from the tiniest decisions to the big. It's so nice to feel simply content that I'm doing my best whether I make mistakes or not. And when I help others I know in my heart I don't do it for glory, quite the opposite. It's also been refreshing to listen to my gut instinct when I suspect others are taking advantage and so I listen more to my boundaries and less to the guilt-tripping and pity-play of others. I think this is hopefully me getting stronger within myself. Thank you Dr Ramani.

polarbear
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Since both codependency and narcissistic traits develop as responses to trauma, I can believe they can coexist in the same person. The child coping with trauma learns tactics for managing the powerful people they can't escape.

kimslone
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Absolutely. My evil grandiose narcissist is 42 and she lives with her mom. Her mom raises her kids for her while she chases men. Her mom pays all of her bills, and her mom gives her as much money she asks for at any given time. People and families like this are disgusting because they create MONSTERS.

Pozativ
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Absolutely, certainly yes💯💯💯 All narcissists i've ever met are codependent since they always need people around them to satisfy their selfishly entitlement..

shiny
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I feel like the older they get the more codependent they get, for two reasons. One, because they've alienated so many people, they have fewer people left to use. And two, they want someone to take care of them. They gotta keep that caregiver on board.

p.w.
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I am so happy that you mentioned enmeshment in this video. My soon to be ex-husband told me that he and his mother are enmeshed and that his mother is a narcissist. That was the first time I was introduced to these terms. By the end of our marriage I realised that he most likely is a vulnerable narcissist based on his behaviour.

It was absolutely puzzling to see how he constantly put his mother before me even though he would at times complain that he hated her and even looked forward to the day she was no longer here.

When she insisted on having us over every Sunday for dinner after we got married, he would go. I told them both that I would not be going and never attended.

Over time I recognised that what I thought was a loving relationship between parent and child was extreme manipulation and a lack of healthy boundaries.

shanerob
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Dr. Ross Rosenberg says codependent people have self love deficit disorder. I think that is a more accurate term. When you are raised without healthy self love, due to abuse or neglect, you seek love outwardly. You jump through hoops for other people to receive the love you didn’t have growing up.

PaperMario
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You saved me and save me every time, Dr. Ramani. Grateful. Now I recognize a narcissist miles away.

grupigrapette
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I've literally just seen a coaching program amounting to 300 dollars/hour, and here you are giving all this învaluable information for free, thank you! 🙈

lolac
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Knowledge is power. Wow, JUST realized I AM co-dependent. Someone I love was moody, I immediately started feeling sad and started ruminating and feeling depressed and filled with anxiety and feelings of not Enough. I started watching my daily lessons from Doctor Ramani, and bam, this is exactly the many feelings I was going through. Wow, wow, wow. You are what you think. Doctor Ramani you are changing lives and saving lives.

sherryripepi
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Narcissism is derived from insecurities, and so is co-dependency. Insecurity comes from fear. If co-depend people are not careful and don't start self-reflecting and dealing with their issues, they fall into narcissism. I watched it happen with my ex-wife. So narcissistic people are super fearful of so many things, which makes them insecure, which was not addressed, which made them codependent. First comes fear. If nothing is done to conquer the fear, that fear turns into an insecurity. If nothing is done about the insecurity, it turns into co-dependency. If the co-dependency is never addressed, the coping mechanisms become narcissistic. The bottom line is that they are just afraid, and they handle their fear incorrectly, or they just keep running from it, which makes the fear even bigger.
The fear you run from gets bigger, but the fear you look at disappears.

Leoo
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As a codependent person I believe the difference lies in power. The narcissist is someone, who has the upper hand. A codependent person such as myself becomes a narcissist when they get someone below themselves in the pecking order (I was becomming one to my kids before my therapy). And because in our society it is usually the man who has the power and women are trained to be subordinated, codependency is more visible in women, narcissism in men. But codependent mothers do get to be narcissistic towards their kids, codependent bosses towards their employees and so on.

wiedzma_nie_niewiasta
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Of course! Narcissists always need someone or something from someone and almost always reliant on others. Part of the package...

Rosetea
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I have had and have a number of narcissists in my life who appear quite codependent. It's like they have no sense of self separately from whatever it is that they are getting from their relationships. I even think that some of the control tendencies can be co-dependency - they are calling you twenty times a day to check up on you but also because you are the only thing that currently reaffirms their sense of self. They are trying to turn you into this perfect robot who will do whatever they need whenever they need it so that they never have a bad thought, or a dull moment, or need to work in any way that makes them uncomfortable.

elminx
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im a woman of a certain age (52), and its interesting, when u get to this “age” u just dont have patience anymore for any bs. im grateful bc it protects me from idiots and narcissists (aka idiots). its so refreshing to not have to waste time on people like that. u CAN be free! life’s too short. find happiness in simple things. like nature, pets, no drama..etc

andrmda
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In a narcissistic relationship, it's always complicated!

realhealing
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They absolutely can and its a dangerous dance no one wants to experience

bravex
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Exactly as you are describing it with their parents, so that other people see them as caring people and they tell everyone what they do for the parents. It is sad how they do it, trying to please the parents, prove themselves, look good to the world, and get validation, while treating others very badly as you say💔 They also drive their self steam from others and look for much younger and very attractive partners, while feeling super anxious and fearful constantly. All you say is true.
This is an amazing video, so helpful to understand this dynamic. Thank you Dr.Ramani💖💖💖

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