22 Creedmoor Vs ALL 22 Centerfires

Welcome to Ron Spomer Outdoors! In this video, I compare all the 22 centerfires to the new 22 Creedmoor, and we'll look at how it holds up against the competition.

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Who is Ron Spomer
For 44 years I’ve had the good fortune to photograph and write about my passion – the outdoor life. Wild creatures and wild places have always stirred me – from the first flushing pheasant that frightened me out of my socks in grandpa’s cornfield to the last whitetail that dismissed me with a wag of its tail. In my attempts to connect with this natural wonder, to become an integral part of our ecosystem and capture a bit of its mystery, I’ve photographed, hiked, hunted, birded, and fished across much of this planet. I've seen the beauty that everyone should see, survived adventures that everyone should experience. I may not have climbed the highest mountains, canoed the wildest rivers, caught the largest fish or shot the biggest bucks, but I’ve tried. Perhaps you have, too. And that’s the essential thing. Being out there, an active participant in our outdoor world.

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[mikeinlutz]

222 Remington was my woodchuck gun growing up in Ohio in the '60s made spending money clearing bean fields of the chucks.

[mubitasylvester]

I don't know but that 22-250 rem is a hot round to this day

[drewriggs]

Ron, my family has a bit of a history with .22 centerfire rifles. My great-grandfather had a .218 Bee. He killed mule deer with it. One year, he loaned it to a buddy to mule deer hunt with. The buddy shot a deer and returned the rifle. The next year Grandpa Great pulled it out of the closet to get ready for the upcoming deer season and accidentally shot himself in the leg. He ended up losing his leg. Apparently his buddy returned the rifle loaded and Grandpa Great failed to check it. Needless to say firearm saftey is huge in our family now.
My Mom decided she wanted to start mule deer hunting so my Dad went to buy her a .22-250 to hunt with. Well he ended up getting a great deal on a .222 Rem. My Mom would have no problem helping butcher the animals, but she couldn't bring herself to pull the trigger. Dad used the .222 Rem to kill 2 mule deer bucks. Both dropped dead on the spot. I got that .222, but I didn't reload so it was hard to find ammo. I traded it for a .30-06. I have killed 2 pronghorn with a .223 Rem. One at 140 yards the second at 222 yards. My wife used the same .223 Rem to take her first big game animal a pronghorn at 80yards. All three pronghorn went less than 25 yards and died. I am sold on .22 centerfire cartridges on game under 300lbs under 300 yards.

[smithra]

The triple deuce and 22/250. Great, classic pair for medium and long range work, respectively.

[rossfelton]

22-250 is one of my favorite cartridges. Incredibly accurate. Surprisingly potent.

[wmmikek]

I used to shoot a 220 Swift in the late fifties along with a 7x61 Sharpe and Hart, both very fast. My Dad was in todays terms a "Ballistic Speed Freak", we were loading everything to achieve +4000fps. The problem was the bullets at that velocity, primarily stabilization and separation. It was difficult to get a good set of dies for the 220 Swift. The collet when seating the bullets and crimp would bow. No CAD/CAM in those days, just excellent Gunsmiths and machinist!!!

[edwardebroome]

I love this in-depth comparison. I’m always learning. I have 22lr, 2.23/5.56, 22-250, and an and old S&W revolver with 22 magnum.
Thanks for the content!

[CrazyWader-rtks]

There is a small but loyal following of the 22 PPC that is arguably the most accurate among this group. A shame it wasn't mentioned. But what a nice review of the others in the same class! Thank you Ron!

[tonynorthwest]

I actually know this one!!

My father was in the Army, and told me of a legendary .22 Cartridge, chambered in .222 Remington Magnum. It was called the .22 High Power, and was used by the Military in his days of service, as a Marksman, and Sniper Level Qualifying Rifle Round. He later in his career, got to see thousands of them get decommissioned and destroyed, as they were being phased out.

Through my personal dealings, later on as an adult. I actually happened to come across one, that had slipped through the cracks. They're very much reminiscent, of an old .30 Carbine, and just as heavy. It was a Bolt Action, with Adjustable Iron Sights, and the capability of reaching 600yds without breaking a sweat. 😊

I'm sure glad I discovered this channel!!! Thank you Mr. Spomer, for bringing my dad's story to life.

[joepatriot]

I built a custom cartridge a few years back that was impressive. It was a 22x257Ackley. I took one of my 257Ackley cases and necked down to a 22 cal. had a reamer made and chambered a Rem 700 stainless short action with a Shilen 26" 1x7 twist for heavy bullets. Slow powders H-1000 RL-25 etc, with 80gr Berger VLD. Over the Chrony loads were at 3710 fps. Power was more than impressive. It would sometimes punch all the way through 1" mild steel plate at 500 yds. With a 100 yd zero it only needed 17 min of elevation for 1000 yds. Several five shot groups at 1000 produced 3 to 5 inch groups. Ground hogs were not happy. From Ron's chart it looks like it would have been similar to the 5.56x57mm RWS. It was in fact based on the 57mm case, but blown out to Ackley specs.

[rogerramjet]

Great topic. 22250 is IT !!! All around great !!

[ThSu]

There are quite a few .22 caliber cartridges that were not mentioned here, which I understand because there are many that are not being produced anymore. I would argue that it didn't start around the 22 Hornet though. There were some that came around well before that one was introduced dating back to the late 1800's, such as the .22 WCF. The one that gets a lot of the blame for the .22 caliber not being allowed for medium/big game hunting is the 22 Savage High Power. This one was developed around 1912 for the Savage model 99 and pushed a 70 grain soft point out around 3000 fps. It became somewhat popular overseas and was called the 5.6 x 52R.

[johnwilburn]

Never believed in inherently accurate cartridges but use to hand load the .225 Winchester after 1000's of different combinations of primers, powders, and bullets.I found out the 22-250 was a lot more user friendly to find accurate loads for.

[squirreldog]

Love your channel Ron. It is fascinating that .224 caliber has truly become America's favorite caliber. The .308 is our favorite "big" bore. Which in the grand scheme of things is still not that big, but the variety of the .22 from rimfire to centerfire is amazing.

[kentuckywindage]

Nice job Ron!
I've ran quite a few of these loading and today run the 223/5.56 plenty of brass, bullets and loadings sure find that Creedmoor intriguing.

[marvinbrock]

Currently 52 years old, I got bit by the gun/shooting bug in the 9th grade! 1985! I read Eveything I could find! Over the years, now retired Army, I’ve kept so many magazines from the early 90’s to now. So many names, so many amazing gun writers.. it’s like my happy place when I want to relax… Boddington, Mann, Spomer, Barsness, JD Jones, Wieland, Seyfried, Waters, Sitton, Aagard… on and on.. I really miss those days. Not all the arguing and nonsense that goes on today.. I mean Craig loved his .33’s sure.. others loved their .284’s… great banter.. You sir are in that group, my group of poetic heroes.. 🇺🇸🫡

[scottquenstedt]

Horizon firearms has done a great job promoting it. In Texas, pretty much any native animal you need to kill (not including large exotic species), just about any 22 cal with a QUALITY bullet and good shot placement is absolutely ample power. Plus, with lower recoil, your more likely to make a better shot.

[thomasdye]

I have many of these, including the hotrods. I have a Remington 788 22-250, a Remington 700 classic 220 Swift, and a Browning Varmint SS 223 WSSM. All three have "24 barrels. Sure, the 223 WSSM is the speed champion but the 22-250 is the most practical. There isn't enough of a velocity difference to matter much in my humble opinion. The 223 WSSM's 1:10 twist rate is hard on lighter bullets. I've had the 220 Swift rimlock on me but nobody ever talks about that nowadays.

My Savage 223 covers almost everything I need to do with a 22 centerfire caliber. The 1:7 to 1:8 fast twist 22 Creedmoor looks interesting and I hope Savage makes one in their 110 based action with a 24-26 barrel.

[richarddecker]

I'm kinda partial to the 222 rem. My grandfather gave me a Sako l46 Riihimaki that he purchased from Jim Carmichael, the Outdoor life editor. It's light as a feather and a tack driver. Also a big fan of the Swift. Have a single shot savage 112 in that caliber that also shoots .5 moa with handloads.

[bryanrabel]

Hornet is my all time favorite. My wife has a Stevens bolt action and i have an H&R Topper. We love them