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I can't believe I'm saying this, but DELTARUNE Chapters 3 and 4 are actually almost here! Toby Fox's most recent Deltarune Newsletter told us a lot about Spamton, Chapters 3 and 4, Chara and Asriel, and much more! Because this newsletter was so packed with information, I felt like discussing many of my observations and thoughts on it. I think we can officially say the Deltarune release hype train has started...

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[OLuziOLusic]

Noelle staring into the flashlight might just be a "deer in headlights" gag/joke lmfao 😂

[HollyfromtheHollow]

I'd love if, instead of "funny haha gameshow host", we got "corrupt, cruel director" as the next Dark World leader archetype. Someone who might be funny on the surface, while the cameras are still rolling, and open to funny moments, but can be _genuinely cruel_ to their staff and employees. From comedy to tragedy. Queen was kinda mean at times, but her villainy was always played for comedy, and, Hell, when the plugged darkners aren't serving her, _they still get to live their lives. And they like their cool bodies!_ Someone who's more of a reflection of the corporate cruelty behind the scenes instead of just being comically misguided and self-centered would be a breath of fresh air, in this case.

It sounds like Spamton and Mike got really screwed over by them, after all. A scar that never healed.

[gradientLX]

In my opinion, chapter 2 being quirky fits the computer and internet theming very well, the internet has always been unserious and casual for most people, and with memes being VERY huge in internet culture. It only makes sense that the queen of the computer would be that way. would a scary medusa person really match the general feel of "the internet"?

Don't get me wrong though, I still really like the Queen's first design, but I think that what Toby ultimately went with was better for the chapter's theme.

[Double]

I'd prefer a darker more threatening villain later. Keep in mind that they see this as a form of escapism, the gang needs to be lulled into a false sense of security and that requires a sillier tone with only small pieces of darkness being hidden away enough for them to ignore.

[argarock]

I feel like chapter two having very "internet humour" makes sense considering the dark world is themed on well... The internet?

[tigerbear]

Personally, I feel like the old ch2 queen would feel to close to king. I prefer having one wacky and one menacing character instead of two menacing ones.

[Axolotlboi]

I think the reason for the flashlight and the dark room in the Noelle screenshot is a power outage. We know from the 2022 screenshots that it's gonna rain during Ch 4, so I can totally see that developing into a full on storm while Kris and Susie are visiting the Holiday Mansion.

[darealsooski]

I get your gripes w/ ch.2, but I cant help but feel it was purposeful. Chapter 2 is the point in the story where the fun gang and all associated lightners are engaging in the fantasies of the dark world that the story is working towards proving can be dangerous and malevolent behind the curtains. To prove to us as the players that the dark world is an alluring and captivating place, we have to see its splendor before we see its dark underbelly. Chapter 2 is quirky, fun, and the exact kind of place youd WANT to go on an adventure in, which is why what we see of the underbelly worked so well in the chapter (Spamton, notably). I think that as we get further in the game, the quirky schtick will slowly drop and we're gonna see the horrors of the existential implication that IS the dark world, with its place in the narrative and meta-narrative of the game and I personally cant wait

[combinegaming]

My theory is a flashback of Noelle sneaking looking for presents

[lbsc]

13:40 I don't think the recontextualisation of King's behaviour was due to Chapter 2 being more light-hearted. Rather I think it has been planned from the start that by the end of the game we'll see King much more sympathetically.

[absnthk]

I believe Chapter 2's lighthearted and humorous tone is well-suited, considering its online setting. The Snowgrave route is dark enough on its own, and the portrayal of the Queen as a safe space for Noelle enhances the alternate narrative and creepy atmosphere similar of how a creepypasta would be portrayed, like, inside a jolly silly game, there’s a secret route where everything is twisted.

Susie being more open speaks volumes about her personality and how she quickly gains confidence with people who treat her well, similar to how street dogs are with people who give them affection - it's like she was always silly but never had someone to unleash it with.

[TheGlenn]

Queen being silly kinda makes sense. If there was any time to do a silly villain it should be for the internet/computer dark world.

[androidwillpwn]

I see your point about Queen, but I think between King last chapter and Spamton in chapter 2, having Queen be goofy and nonthreatening was the right call. It's similar to Snowden from Undertale. The game starts a little serious and then foreshadows that there will be some more serious material in the future, then gives you a fun goofy space to play around in so that the future serious tone feels like a bigger shift from where you started. Also, these are a bunch of teenagers who have just discovered magic. A theme looks like it's going to be how we interact with this kind of escapism. We need to have a little bit where the Dark Worlds are good and fun and only scary enough to be exciting. That darkness is still there if you scratch beneath the surface (Spamton, Snowgrave) but at a glance? These kids will want to keep the dark worlds coming.

[average_deltarune_fan]

To me, Noelle’s flashlight angle makes it look like she’s telling scary stories and wanted mood lighting.

[Wailbouzidi]

imagine if the chapter 3 villain is like that wacky game show host and they're like kinda friendly at the beginning, but towards the end they really start showing how mentally corrupted they are and just care about being famous and all that even if it meant causing the roaring. another point is that, queen had a reason to protect her dark world... and she didn't know about the roaring, but if this villain already knows that guarding the fountain can cause the roaring then they should have another reason for doing so and it would be weird if they don't know about the roaring and ralsie explains it again, and the last interesting thing about this villain is... well they don't know who is the knight, they couldn't have seen kris create the fountain bc the smile appears after kris puts back his soul and goes back to sleep, so they could've heard about the knight but they're not sure if he's the one who made their world and i guess they will try and make a false assumption like making undyne seem like the knight or smt, this villain seems to be the most interesting one yet in my opinion, and i guess the chapter 4 one will be much more serious bc angel church and whatnot.
there's also the fact that they're the TV, probably the closest boss to kris and his familly

[ScrewlooseStudios]

The Mayor is the Knight.
Knight Mayor.
Nightmare.
There you go.

[ProfessionalBadPerson]

Noooo don't take away my December 2024 hopium

[youyououmf]

Spamton isn't a funni li'l guy, his story is deep and metaphorical

[VariantBank]

The trailers probably coming in december. Once the japanese localization is done everything will be ready for a trailer to be made, and everythings already ready for the english one. Financially, if the game is able to be preordered before christmas it will make more money

[TaskMaster]

Toby REALLY wanted some pizza pie from my newsletter.