8 More Weird Route Secrets Deltarune Chapter 2 (Reupload)

Previous version of this video had some issues, fixed them and added more info.

0:00 Intro
0:41 Talking to Noelle on the Switch
0:58 Moving during Noelle's hospital scene (3rd time ends cutscene)
1:15 Blue Bead Is Missing
1:22 No Egg For You
1:36 Bunker, definitely not different, proof!
2:07 Trashcan definitely not different, proof!
2:18 The Queen's Dialogue Doesn't Change
2:34 You Can Recruit in Snowgrave Run: Who and How.
3:00 Disambiguating Routes is Hard Guys
3:25 Noelle Sprites
4:03 Victory Animation Houses Resemble Castle Town
4:28 Sprites Will Reset Even if You Keep Casting Snowgrave
5:03 If KeyGen is a Commemorative Ring, What if We "Buy Two"
5:17 Do the Addisons respond or change the Spamton story?
6:12 Pipis, can you recruit them? Why Toby, why can't I recruit them?
6:53 Spamton Neo Patch
7:05 Glass and Cliff Hole Unchanged
7:22 Hidden Dialogue in the Big Shot Song!

Ah let's see,

Okay here's the [Big Shot] series. All for dream-inq we have...

EVEN NEWER NEW: User V.G. tried to link me to this in the comments but their comment got eaten!

[leep]

Another thing with the spamton fight, when the song goes "Nows your chance to be a big shot!" When he glitches at the end where it sounds like hes saying big shot like 20 times at once, but he actually sais "Hy- Hyperlink blocked"

[ZaCloud-Animations___she-her]

When it comes to nicknaming this route, I like to call it the "Peer-Pressure Route."

[orange]

The supposed secret lyrics fit Spamton's tale pretty well.

Whoever was calling Spamton stopped calling him, so his sales started to go down. He was going to be evicted from the queen's mansion, hence "they're coming for me". He called his mysterious friend and hoped that they would pick up so he could be saved, but they didn't. The swatchlings came for him and kicked him out.

[GippyHappy]

There's a few videos out that make the voice in Big Shot much clearer.
*BIG SHOT [ISOLATED VOCALS] by Floppi* and *BIG SHOT mumbling voice isolated by introC*

1. (some)thing is coming for me, answer the phone
2. (I) can't explain it til you're all alone
3. (it) pulls the string(s) and make(s) (them) ring
4. can't tell you how much it's ringing [phone ringing sound]
5. (some)thing is coming for me, (some)thing is coming for me /repeating
5. answer the phone, answer the phone, Mike /repeating
6. pull-pull-pull the strings and pull the strings and
7. tell me what you're really (selling)
7. don't you want to be a big shot [phone ringing sound]

The repeating numbers are lines that play simultaneously, although for 7 the second line actually interrupts the first a little. So it becomes "tell me what you-nna be a BIG SHOT".

I have high confidence this is what it's saying or _very close_ to what it's saying.

[momiji_numberdaughterwife]

if you ask me about noelle's animation differences, the smaller pupils thing is probably actually her looking down because she doesn't want to look the enemy in the eyes knowing what she's about to do to them. when she's getting ready to "melee", i imagine she looks at them because she's actually paying attention to them now that she's been given orders to make a move.

[pandalion]

"cant make fried chicken without breaking a few eggs" is the funniest take on snowgrave Ive seen since we discovered it like a month ago-

[levthelion]

The Pipis are the same as the pottery in that room on the normal route, which is why they interact with all the party members. (Toby Fox wanted to troll us)

[percycreeper]

Why is no one talking about the fact that Kris ACT´s for the first time on his own in a battle in the snowgrave route: The dialod box at the end of SPamton NEO´s Boss fight reads "KRIS called for help" the first few times until "YOU call[...] for Noelle"!!!

[MadamLava]

>you can MOVE during Noelle's light world panic attack
THATS HORRIFYING

[D_YellowMadness]

Maybe pipis are like Spamton's equivalent of the eggs you get from the mystery man but instead of being full of Spamton heads, the eggs from the mystery man are full of... I don't know, memoryheads or something.

I wonder if Spamton was about to say "There's nothing to fear except Gaster." but he was suddenly turned off & had to reboot just like how the game turns off when the player tries to name a character Gaster in either game.

[leedlelel]

8:42 when they talked about isolating the left side of the vocals, they were talking about the high pitched garbled noise thats right before the loop, not the lyrics everyone hears different stuff from

The right side is just the dummy theme

[theladiescallmesona]

1:22, no its bc the beads represent kris susie and ralsei, when doing the weird route, you went off the way, that being represented by the blue bead.

[HalfBreadChaos]

Gonna add it to the description but thought I'd post it here too in case the description is being a butt.

Quick Disclaimer on the name "Weird Route" (Yes this is copy pasta'd from the other video)

I'm getting a lot of comments on the fact I call this "The Weird Route." I feel it's important to keep a few things in mind here... (spoilers for the alternate routes of both Undertale and Deltarune below)

First, routes don't really have "official" names. "The Snowgrave" Route IS the most popular name for this route, but it's not "the correct" name anymore than "soda" is the only correct term for fizzy beverages.

That said, while there isn't an "official name, " the game does have to label the code related to this route somehow, and pretty much all the code in game refers to this as either "weird route" or "b-side route." So if there were a "correct" name, it'd be one of those.

The name "Snowgrave" is also a bit of a spoiler for both the nature of the route and the route's most climactic moment. If I'm going to give a "spoiler warning" for the alternate route, it would be counter productive to spoil said route in the same breath.

"But wait!" I hear you say, "What about the Genocide route! That's not the name in-code! And isn't it a spoiler?" Both very fair points. The name in code is usually "murder" route. The problem is, in the early days of Undertale, it was hard to communicate using that name, because players would "murder" the monsters directly in their path, and be confused when it didn't provide them with the unique route. The name implied false information, and led to confusion. "Genocide" while controversial, is sharp and direct. It communicates to the player that you don't mean "the route where you don't show mercy" or "the route where you fight." You are referring to a route in which you go out of your way to hunt every last monster to extermination.

While "Weird route" is less popular, and hardly a set of instructions, it doesn't cause the same problems in communication, as no one is going to mistakenly believe they "did the weird route, " at most they'll ask for clarification. It would have been smarter of me to explain the disambiguation at some point in the video though, that's my bad.

All that said, I'm not trying to shame anyone for using the name "Snowgrave" route. Like I personally love that name, and use it in casual conversation pretty much every time. But I do try to be mindful about spoilers in my videos, since I personally love discovering things myself and hate it when others don't permit me that same courtesy.

... Okay sorry for the paragraph, carry on beauties, gentle-beauties, and friends beyond conventional attraction.

[bonesmcrattley]

As someone explained in the comments, the lyrics to BIG SHOT are on Spotify:

"Think it's coming for me, answer the phone
I can't explain 'til you're all alone
He pulls the strings and make them ring
Until your heart turns red!
Think it's coming for me, answer the phone.
(Think it's coming for me, answer the phone.)
I can't explain 'til you're all alo- o- o- o-
He pulls the strings and (pulls the strings and)
make them ring
TELL YOU WHAT YOU [BIG SHOT]!"

The lyrics are provided by some company called Musixmatch, so I'm not entirely sure how accurate they'd be. They seem to allow users to submit their own lyrics, so either some fan has supplied them with these lyrics, or they came from Toby himself.

[SleepingTroubles]

"It pulls the strings and make them ring" could be talking about both the player and/or Gaster. If it's Gaster he's talking about the "make them ring" could be referencing also the phone calls in which Spamton talked with Gaster.

[Disc-CubeClown]

At 4:26 you said that the snow globe background resembles castle town a lot. But if you defeat both Jevil and Spamton you get a shadow crystal for them. Once you interact with it it says that can see both the class room and the computer lab. So maybe depending on how the story goes shadow crystals and maybe the concept on portals will be important later on in DELTARUNE.

[Jukeboz]

I do know one Set of lyrics we can confirm

"He pulls the strings and makes them ring"
Because in his fight in the diolog it says
"Pulls the strings and makes them ring"

[stoplight]

with the no eggs on snowgrave route

remember how on snowgrave neo spamton says

'there will be no more magic. no more miracles. you lost it when you went too far. you lost it.'

and darkerners from other dark worlds like lancer and rouxls seem to turn to stone faster on snowgrave

it seems the player warping things and making their choices matter is damaging the dark worlds connections. thus why the egg isnt there- when you can get it, even though its in the cyber world it has a tree from field of hopes and dreams.

[grayanddevpdx]

My take on the lyrics:
There’s multiple voices, do I’ll write them separately.
Section 1:
“1: Think it’s coming for me, answer the phone. I can’t explain ‘til you’re all alone.”
You’re all alone.”
Section 2:
“1: It pulls the strings and makes them ring.”
“2: Pull the strings and make ‘em ring.”
Section 3:
“1: Until you’re heart starts to break apart.”
breaking up.”
Section 4:
“1: Think it’s coming for me, answer the phone. I can’t explain ‘til you’re all alone.”
“ Think it’s coming- It’s coming for me, answer the pho-o-o-o.”
Section 2:
“1: It pulls the strings and makes them ring.”
“2: Pull the strings and pull the strings.”
Section 3:
“1: Don’t you want to be a big shot?”
“2: But we had a deal!-“

[greentheshinyumbreon]

* 8:32 ... for the last line of that, i hear "tell me why i am being dismissed!" instead of "tell me what your really selling" or "dont you wanna be a [big shot]?"
* honestly considering spamton's backstory, it makes sense for him to say this.