BEWARE Using Solid Stain on a Deck!!

This is the results of me using solid stain on my deck 2 years later. For me it did not hold up well at all.

#solidstain #beware #stainadeck

[potterytool]

There’s a reason your rails didn’t peel and the deck did. You applied the stains differently to the wood. You brushed one and rolled the other. Rolling is quick and easy but stain must be backed brushed. Wood will resist allowing stain in its pores and by rolling you don’t get enough pressure to penetrate the pores unless you back brush. Either brush it on or have someone behind you brush it in as you go.

[edaker]

You don't have to strip it. Lightly sand it, blow it off, then stain.

[popitscorner]

Two to three years is a typical life when staining a deck with solid stain use superpaint superdeck you should be able to get at least two to three years out of it you don't have to strip it all you have to do is clean the deck from all mold and mildew sanded with 80 grit then roll and brush the new solid stain color on it. That easy 😉 been painting decks for years never any complaints

[rfcasey]

Thanks for the video. I no longer use a semi transparent stain. No matter what finish you use, it will not hold up. So I conceded to the elements. I now use this solution: 3 parts Boiled Linseed Oil to 2 parts Oil Based Thompson's Water Sealer to 1 part Paint Thinner. Come Spring I pressure wash my deck using a 40 degree tip clean and down stream with Pool Essentials (10% Sodium Hypochlorite - under $4.00 a gallon at Walmart)Then I brighten it with oxalic acid. This sure beats sanding and/ or stripping the deck

[inevitabledestiny]

I used Behr Deck Over on my deck, it did the exact same thing. I called Behr, they tried to blame it on my prep work. They sent me new paint, I scraped, cleaned everything, and repainted. A couple years later, I'm busting my back doing it again, as well as replacing some boards which rotted out as the water/melting snow got under the paint. I've used Behr products all of my life, but never again.

[CocoChanelle-]

I always use a transparent stain. It’s much less work to maintain. Summer is for fun and not stripping. My deck is 25 years old and still looks good. I clean it every year with Murphy’s oil soap in warm water with a soft broom. Then rinse with a hose.

[RingZero]

I used this SuperDeck semi-solid product (White Birch) on my 250' x 6ft high new wood privacy fence (3000 sqft Staining surface). My local Sherwin-Williams store recommended 3 x 5 -gallon pails based on the product estimate and I ended up using twice as much - 6 x 5-gallon pails ($1800 just for stain). First I powerwashed my new fence and let it dry thoroughly for 3 days and then used the airless sprayer to apply, along with back brushing where required, and completed the job in total of 15 hours. I know its not easy and very tiring but airless sprayer does a fantastic job to deliver the material on the surface quickly.

[kleenk]

I feel your pain. I will never build another wood deck EVER. Oh they look fantastic, then they turn on you. I only use clear stain on mine, and it looks great for 6 or 7 months. Usually wait a full year before I clean it and seal it. Just PW the deck, and will seal it in two days. It has been a year to the day. Too much maintenance in this GA sun. Pavers or concrete from now on.

[PrestoTheBesto]

When it comes down to using any product prep work is key to a long lasting surface. Specifically when prepping a deck you should always power wash thoroughly ensure enough dry time, treat for moss if needed, sand, blow down surface. The key with any stain is applying a second coat that following week as the wood has absorbed all it can with the first coat. Solid Stain are considered a longer lasting stain, then goes down the product ladder from there oil being the best in most cases. Although considering you’re using a water base. In this case not enough upkeep was done to sustain a sealed surface thus leaving the surface vulnerable.

[rubyruby]

We used Behr solid stain and are having the same issues with peeling, etc. It looked horrible after less than a year plus it took too long to dry. It was guaranteed not to do that so I could probably get my money back but that doesn't pay for your time and the back-breaking work required to redo. I would never recommend Behr solid stain. In fact, it's so maddening I refuse to use any Behr products.

[cherylbrown]

Same thing happened to me. I used a SW product, followed all the instructions and prepped as I should have. I'm looking out at my deck in our Ontario 🇨🇦 spring knowing I have to start from scratch again... my solution....huge outdoor area carpet until I can get the energy to go again...
Saving for a stone patio now! 🤣

[diyernh]

NY is an EPA low VOC state. You may have used water based, low VOC stain as that's all you could buy? I'm guessing the new stains don't penetrate easily. Thanks for the video, I wont be using solid stain due to the film buildup on the surface. I'd rather stain semi-transparent every 2 years than sanding off bad stain

[joelcastellanos]

A contractor recommended Benjamin moore solid so that's what is used. Brushed my entire deck. A workout!

[ItchyKneeSon]

A retired chemist friend of mine (who developed outdoor products for a couple of the big paint companies you know) recommended PPG Pro Luxe (formerly Sikkens) as exterior deck stain.

-Wood must be <18% moisture content, CANNOT be exposed to UV/sunlight for more than a day (or the surface is damaged, limiting adhesion), and free of contaminants.
-Use PPG's deck staining/re-staining tips on their website.
-Clean all surfaces with TSP/bleach/water mixture, scrub, & allow to dry before application.
-Any 'grayed' wood must be sanded to reveal yellow wood color.
-Reapply yearly for a few years to build layers and durability. Then, every few years for maintenance.

Also, be careful with treated lumber decks made before about 2005 because they contain heavy metals that you DO NOT want to breathe in, get into cuts, or your eyes/system.

[vwaudiwelder]

Goodness that looks EXACTLY like my deck! I used Rustoleum 5x coverage redwood solid stain. I cleaned all the wood very well. I let it dry. I then applied the white Rustoleum primer on the walking surfaces with a roller and then when dried I used an airless sprayer for ALL surfaces. It only lasted two years. What a mess. Lowes no longer carries it.

[littlesilver]

It looked great when i put it on, I cleaned the deck, i applied it at the end of july 2020 to NOW April 2021, it beaded up nice when it rained.Once the snow started to melt disaster struck the whole deck was peeling and coming up it was heartbreaking. Everyone said ya its great been holding up well you wont have a problem not even 1 winter and now the whole deck needs to be redone .

[baymancal]

Not sure if it will work, but maybe if you took up the planks and turned them upside down???? Will depend on how the wood looks when you do. Maybe take up one plank and check it out. Just a suggestion.

[brandoncarrington]

Looks like rushed prep work to me. The main cause of paint abnormalities such as, premature peeling etc. Normally comes from a rushed or not thorough prep job. Leaving behind prepping chemicals, not waiting until its fully dry before applying stain after prep, even putting on a second coat too soon after first coat is down all play a major roll in the outcome . Prep is theost important roll in any paint 🎨 or staining project.

[jimcarris]

literaly this happens with semi solid stian and it was worse. Stain sucks not matter what you do. every couple years it will need restaining.. I will never use pressure treated wood again, composite is worth the cost

[rgraz]

I would just rent a drum sander and remove the solid stain that way. Just make sure your nails are recessed enough. Have you decided what you're going to apply? I'm in the same situation now. My 5 year old pressure treated pine deck had 3 applications of ReadySeal Semi Transparent Stain/Sealer. It lookED good but it doesn't prevent mold and stains from occurring on the shady part of the deck. So, I was looking for a solid stain so I can use a dark grey color, but people advise not to use solid stains because of this issue with peeling and wear. I need to use a drum sander to make the cupping / warping less obvious. Please let me know what you decide to apply. Thanks.