Do you really need an ISP? | Tech Man Pat

Answering the question that has been asked after you get off the phone with ISP support because your internet is slower than dial up.

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[bogar]

So basically the in order to bypass the ISP you need to become one.

[astro]

Nicely put together video! Though there is no way to really get around using an ISP to get access to "The Internet", I always wondered what would happen if a group of people came together and built a network infrastructure for a "Free-net". Basically a large scale local network spanning across multiple nations so connected devices can share information freely with each other without the need of ISP's. There would be problems with regulating bandwidth and extending the usable range of network cabling, but I think these issues could easily be solved. Imagine the uses of a truly free network outside the control of nations, corporations, ISP's, etc.

[evaldaszmitra]

You know what doesn't make sense?

We build the lines with public money and then we pay private corporation AGAIN to use them. Internet should be provided by the government, not the ISP.

[Fire-Manz]

Let me cook, What if everyone together start an ISP - let's call it 'Free Internet LOL" or the FIL for short. Everyone just pay just enough into it being and the info just so happens to be temporary.

How much of a clash would this theory propose?

[rileydavidjesus]

“It’s all a web of lies.”

This guy knows what’s up.

[memyselfandi]

That's how ISP iinet originally began it was started by 2 university graduates in one of the graduates parents garage. So creating your own ISP business is possible.

[darkshadowsaver]

Basically what the internet is a giant lan grid that connects servers to servers. The question is can you bypass isp to get on their grid? No. But you can create your own grid if you have the knowledge to rig up your own servers.

[crazyDIYguy]

I've heard rumors of people successfully hacking their ISP by configuring their modem in a passive way to leach off the network undetected. Way above my head though.... 🤷‍♂️🤔

[CODAdventures]

You gave me most of the information I need, great video ❤️

[dagogouranta]

So ... live long enough to see yourself become the villain

[chrono]

Strictly speaking because of Section 230 an ISP is not responsible for the actions of those who use their service. They would have to comply with authorities if they presented a proper warrant, but that's about it. I don't know about other countries, though.

[RabbitConfirmed]

"No views" holy shit Im so eary not even my own view is counted.

[logangraham]

though i get the thing with across oceans and what not but across land and such im not sure why the internet could be purely p2p.
if everyone was connected to their nearest neighbors for example then they could build up kind of a mesh and thus the more people near by the more possible routes for the traffic to go instead of pushing it through a single isp node.

its like the difference between torrent and regular downloads but in a physical sense.

[christopherstaples]

pipe-networks was bliss in the early ADSL / cable days, free data all peers on same network while "Ziggy Switkowski" was charging Ziggy Bytes up and down

[blankx]

Great video, quick and easy. I was wondering if you would ever do a more in depth video explanation on computer science, as I'm doing my CompTIA A+ Net+ Sec+ & Pen+ and I would love explanations like this video.

[evansunde]

Does this mean that ISP is connecting us to different network of aws, google, facebook, etc and ISP is paying on our behalf of connecting with them?

[vnc.t]

If you bypass both the isp and telecom do you get free internet?

[cableapostle]

The Internet is a concept. The Internet is a global routing network hierarchy. To make the internet you'll need to make up a system of networks. That's just talking about the network. ISP control part of the network systems! You, as a customer, are paying ISP to connect you to their system and maintain the outside network. Many systems will connect to other systems and join them together! Providers also need to run DNS, DHCP, Dynamic Routing, Services, Point to Point of Protocol, etc. As far as your favorite contents goes, like your favorite websites and services, companies hosts the networks! Those companies also need to connect to several providers and systems to make available to you. If you're one of those people who wonders if you can bypass a provider then you don't understand how networking works at all. You can build your own system of network and share the network! That's as most basic on how internet works as it get. Even still! A system of network goes as far as where the routers connect to and setting up the routing!

[AdrianCuyubambaDiaz]

Is it possible to "leach" from those main internet lines to avoid the expensive fees?

[dusdnd]

No, if you have a computer on your home network hosting a website with another computer on the network accessing the website... you're not an internet. You're a network. Internetworking is networking networks. You can have an "internet" but you're not on the Internet (I know, for some reason someone believes it should now officially be lowercased... that "authority" is incorrect, there is a specific internet named the Internet and that requires proper case).