Why would God create people He knew would go to Hell?

[AMKmusic]

Love isn't love if it isn't free

[Kramer-tt]

If a parent lets their 2 kids out to go play knowing one will catch on fire and burn alive for eternity, but the other one comes home unscathed. Those are immoral parents.

[likeatree-eiit]

you can't have pure love without free will.

[znpbuvt]

I rather not be free and go to heaven then be free and go to hell. That's how I feel right now.

[erudite.]

The problem is that God knew how people will choose their free will, he already knew the results, it would have been better if he didn't create humans at all, that would be so benevolent of him,

[STAYDIVINE]

But God himself created people who have no love😭then he condemn them in the fire of hell? I wonder what God means by He is Love.

[rustyreview]

He created a universe where he knew most people would end up in hell

[nharris]

Not really, he could just create the people who would freely believe in him and not create those that wouldn't - especially if he can see the future. Free will and no one getting tortured forever.

[TheAndnor]

He could make a universe where it doesnt require irrationality to believe in him.
Just make it clear that he exists, and then let people choose to worship or not.
Making a universe where its impossible for a rational person to believe in him, and then punish that person for not believing, is pure evil.

[Titil]

In Christianity God doesn't give us a choice. We have the illusion that we have free will. It is not a choice, its an ultimatum. He is saying, "Either worship and believe in me or burn in hell."

[peterlucus]

Free will indirectly asserts that God is not all-powerful simply by saying He "can't" override a free creature. A better argument (although still flawed) would be that He chooses not to.

[williamhutcheson]

Free will. A problem that started in Eden and stays and stays.

[Nonebvcgg]

Nobody asked for this but God, yet we pay the ultimate price.

[resistdespots]

I know Paul tried to rationalize this as well in what he said in Romans 9:19-24 — “You will say to me then, ‘Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?’ On the contrary, who are you, you foolish person, who answers back to God? The thing molded will not say to the molder, ‘Why did you make me like this, ’ will it? Or does the potter not have a right over the clay, to make from the same lump one object for honorable use, and another for common use? What if God, although willing to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with great patience objects of wrath prepared for destruction? And He did so to make known the riches of His glory upon objects of mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory, namely us, whom He also called, not only from among Jews, but also from among Gentiles[.]”

He rationalized that maybe people were prepared for destruction to show His chosen what *not* to be like. This is a dilemma I have a hard time wrapping my head around too.

[jordanthompson]

“But I will harden Pharaoh’s heart, and though I multiply my miraculous signs and wonders in Egypt, he will not listen to you. Then I will lay my hand on Egypt and with mighty acts of judgment I will bring out...my people the Israelites.” Exodus 7:3-4. It's fun being able to use the bibles own word to disprove everything that theists say because there are more contradictions in the gospel than you can shake a stick at

[Leijamusic]

A universe does exist where free will is mute; heaven. If free will is so important, why will we have no other option in heaven but to love him and worship him forever? Seems robotic to me.

[jaykaufman]

God knows exactly what it would take to have someone freely choose him.

[Mavors]

Why does God do this? And God never answers, just people who believe in him come out to make up excuses for their deity.

[prayerwarrior]

I still don't understand hell. It's like a judge giving the same sentence to a lolli pop thief as a murdering rapist. Doesn't seem fair at all.

[jeremylakenes]

Angels believed and they still fell… adam and Eve walked with God and they still fell. Problem isn’t belief, it’s rebellion