Ableton Live 12 - First Look - Sonic LAB Presentation

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We had a visit from Ableton Certified Trainer Tom Glendenning, who showed us round the new features of the Ableton Live 12 which is just about to be launched into Public beta. Full release will be early next year, a free update to all who buy at the currently discounted 20% off.

Log in to your Ableton account when the time comes to see what your upgrade is if you already own Live 11 or earlier.

There are new UI features, new scales and tunings, new devices and new MIDI tools as well as numerous other tweaks.

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00:00:00 Start
00:00:31 UI Changes
00:03:21 Browser
00:06:44 Keys and scales
00:10:18 MIDI Tools
00:17:35 New Devices
00:24:56 CC Control
00:26:51 When and how much

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I can't express how happy I am to finally see the accessibility support in Ableton live! as a legal blind professional musician, the lack of this kind of support created a love and hate for Ableton Live for me. Better late than never! Super excited to trying it out and giving feedback as a disabled power user since v1!

buyukberber
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Full keyboard navigation is something I’ve wanted for so so so long. It’s crazy it took so long to be able to completely control Ableton with just the keyboard. All the other updates look incredible.

justingoers
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Let's be honest, this is what Live 11 should've been. This could've been a .5 update. But, the new MIDI tools, search tools and layout definitely make it worth getting as it seems so streamlined.

fraydendsofsanity
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Looks decent but is definitely more of a update than an upgrade IMO. I really wish Ableton would add more mixer updates. For instance when you mix in Ableton and you have multiple tracks with the same plugins and you want to A/B the mix with and without the plugins you have to click on each track individually and bypass/enable the plugin. In every other DAW you can highlight all tracks and bypass/enable plugins at once. We should be able to go from clip view to mix view where the clips would basically turn into plugin slots.

ProdByThatGuyFace
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I am pretty underwhelmed by the changes, but I am excited for the new mixer stuff, the “keep latency” option per track, and the one click freeze and flatten. Just wish now that I could freeze groups and returns. And, of course, ARA2 would be amazing for Melodyne. If those two things were included, I’d be buying today. As it stands… I may wait for a 12.3 or so before making my move to see if they add anything else that really makes the upgrade worth the $183.

intheblink
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So happy that Ableton is finally accessible for blind users. Can't wait to test it out.

matthewwhitaker
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07:35 : beware of the confusion. There is no "Global Key". Key and scales are per clip.

louiswarynski
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Looks like a great upgrade - Tom did an exceptional presentation too!

I'm looking forward to instrument/sound tagging coming to Push standalone... It will make finding sounds much easier - more like Maschine sort of tagging and browsing I hope

mrclaytron
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the midi tools look sick ! really excited to see them flesh out more piano roll features down the road. it would be really awesome to be able to integrate the scale features with user built harmonies (bIII, subV, hybrid chords, cadences), and to have a shortcut for moving notes in specific intervals other than octave up/down. THANKS ABLETON!!

josephmorrell
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14:50 Without fail, Nick will always have that one question where the answer is a slightly disheartened “er no it doesn’t do that” 😂

BigPlasticPlant
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Where is ARA Support? The most asked for feature of the last few years ☹️

stevenicholsonproducer
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I would have been interested in seeing how do you manage scale changes project wide.

mathieupe
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love these updates! don't want to be that guy but any news on ableton being able to make use of apple m1/2/3 efficiency cores? as of right now ableton and logic pro can only use apples performance cores while reaper and cubase can use all cores to full potential. it's something that is not being talked about much but effectively if you “upgrade“ from a m1 pro with 10 cores to a m2 pro with 10 cores ableton will perform worse..

jordyandj
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First time I see midi editing more interesting then in cubase ! dam Steinberg has to update it's old midi transform and logical editor pretty seriously.

moreausylvain
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I switched to Bitwig a year ago. It's nice to see Ableton getting some features that Bitwig already had. Now I want to see Bitwig getting Ableton features it still doesn't have. For example Bitwig's piano roll still doesn't know scales.
But what I would really want to see is both companies working together to release Abletwig or Biton. All features of both DAWs.

juschu
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Are there custom key commands?
Is there proper PDC on the channels?
Per clip inserts?
Is there multiple audio clip editing?
Built in bounce in place?
Built in delta solo for every plug in instance?

Feels like a Live 11.4.x update rather than a Live 12 update.
But seeing these updates come so fast I'll do what I did with updating from Live 9 to Live 11 and get Live 10 for "free".

nectariosm
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Wonderful demo. This tipped me from “mmm maybe pass this time” to “okay that’s excellent”. Great work mate, so well presented

hellodavidryan
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It's impressive that Tom can remember all these new features straight off the top of the dome, but you know what they say, an ELPHNT never forgets. ;-)

neilomac
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A lot of nice stuff in there. Especially all the MIDI tools

Custom shortcuts please and the ability to hit tab and move between automation points.

friendwithin
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Hope those generative tools get onto Push standalone soon - it’s the perfect platform for that way of working.

pdm