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[drmiteshtrivedi]

Proving once again that Michael Scott was a great boss. He hated Tobey.

[TimmmmCam]

Hmm yeah I'm sure you want the head of sales figuring out how much shared parental leave employees are entitled to and adjusting their salary sacrifice pension contributions...

You definitely need HR people. I think what you really mean is you don't want HR to be responsible for hiring/firing or deciding benefits. I would definitely agree with that.

[Speedy-vykq]

Whoever you're telling you want to use some Vacation Days and actually get paid, they're HR (even if you don't officially call them that). If it's a third party website, it's outsourced HR. Whoever filed the paperwork for the employee-created benefits package (and probably keeps it updated and removes ex-employees) they're HR. Whoever calls the third party to arbitrate a dispute, that person has the HR hat. Whoever you go to because you didn't get your direct deposit or W-2, congratulations, you have found HR.

[mcfattie]

I work in HR so I'm biased, but a lot of what I do is telling hiring managers women also make great engineers, resumes are written by robots so they aren't good predictors of performance, and our money should go to non-revenue generating entities because they're mean to help people.

[buptrain]

A Light weight, agile company structure doesn’t need hr department. But having inhouse law team may be beneficial

[jordanmcgrory]

This is dumb and inefficient. Your technical staff, your sales staff, your specialists all have things in which they are expert. They are not expert in running a legal hiring process. It'll take them time to do that process. You're then paying a $200k+ salaried engineer to do administrative and process work which you could hire HR people to do faster for less risk and a third of the salary.

It sounds like the key problem this guy had with HR is the idea that HR is in charge. It's not, it's a support function.

[montymonty]

Tell me you outsourced all of your relevant jobs outside of the US without telling me you outsourced…

[TheDjcarter]

We had a small, 500 people, business, we had one HR person, that basically helped with putting adds out, scheduling interviews and putting together paperwork. Department head were responsible for interviewing and hiring with CEO and COO approval. For legal issues we had one in house corporate counsel that would handle anything that involved legality and we had employment counsel on retainer for really touchy issues

[MichaelHayesagent]

In principle he correct, however, the roles hes talking about can become very burdensome the larger a company gets. An engineer doesn’t want to wear the hiring hat and the firing hat. They don’t want to approve or deny bonuses . It’s easy to axe hr in a high performing small company. But when you grow large and you can’t get always get the best talent he becomes a nessecery evil.

[momsenpe]

The downside, as a lead engineer now im doing HRs job instead of concentrating on sr technical problems. Its a choice i guess

[kingmuppet]

HR Departments are the HOAs for employees

[jonathonvoegtli]

Back last September our hr dept walked our store asking what could be done to help. This was supposed to range from anything to improve tasks. Literally not a single dept in my store has seen improvement they asked for. My biggest issue is how my loads work i need 7 people 3 days a week and the other 4 days i need 2-4. I currently have 7 employees and it works out perfectly. However 1 person goes on vacation or takes a personal day means that week/day will become a real struggle.

When hr was doing this i said its almost like hearing regans quote on the scariest thing to hear is "im from the government, im here to help" but corporate version just replaced government to hr.

[iansouter]

And just think, Government are the ultimate HR department.

[samshongwe]

Will try this out at one of my companies. Will report back when/if I I get any lawsuits.

[DanFrederiksen]

My only experience with HR was gaslighting. In some misguided attempt to save face. Rather than normal sensibility they had faith in lying as a means to protect the company. Which is really dumb because that goes to malice and intent to deceive. It wasn't important enough for a lawsuit but it's just dumb to self inflict like that. What they did focus on was an NDA so I couldn't talk about what they did... that's as dumb as israel, why go to great lengths to cover your evil instead of just being decent. it works so much better. And they lost their by far best employee in a niche difficult domain that they could never reasonably replace.
It's also strange to me that HR worldwide came to mean corporate evil as opposed to human care.

[lucasorourke]

Idealistic way of thinking. Great way to end up breaching employment law and or requiring more referrals to legal advice

[Ikbeneengeit]

Ah yes, get your smartest engineers to run hiring processes. They'll love that.

[animex]

it protects workers from bullieing bosses

[bingobango]

Get at least two people to file a complaint against the HR… (:

[GoetzimRegen]

HR could be productive, if you see as a problem solver for human conflicts in a working family. they should be more like social workers.