Should You Buy The RED KOMODO, Sony FX6 or Canon C70?!

💭 Comment - Let us know which camera you would choose down below!
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Intro - 00:00
Recording Formats - 04:37
Frame Rates - 06:13
ND Filters - 07:00
Physical Overview - 07:46
Software/Menus - 10:48
Power - 12:04
I/O - 13:01
Audio - 13:52
Autofocus - 15:31
Lenses - 16:32
Media - 17:54
Accessories - 19:01
Cost/Packages - 19:15
Availability - 20:16
Servicing - 20:49
Outro - 21:02

#FX6vsC70vsKOMODO #BestSmallCineCamera #CinemaCamera

[-Hustle]

Fx6 is the camera which can do almost everything
It have 10 bit, full frame sensor, 4k 120fps and even raw external recording, internal ND filters etc
But we all know filmmakers buy red just because they want to impress the client and yes I know red have this so called cinematic look which most people can't even tell the difference
"but is it really what you need" when you spend $6k
Cinematic look heavily depends on the lighting, how you customize the environment, director's experience, experienced DOP, Good Post production work, Color correction, Color grading
And yes if you are shooting a Hollywood movie then we need the best camera even if it's 1% better then the other
But other than that filmmaker wants a camera which is easy to use when it comes to budget productions so they can focus more on the story, acting etc rather than that focusing on the differences between fx6 and red kamodo look which doesn't even matter after color grading a raw footage or even 10bit 4: 2: 2
If you have team, good focus puller and you want to purchase a RED it's good for you
But I think many filmmakers push their budget to impress the client even after knowing that these cameras differences doesn't make any sense when you are on a budget or just starting your career

[pumpum]

i'm extremely satisfied with my FX6 and FX3 combo, with the new 2.0 firmware the FX3 it got even better!

[CinemaSteve]

Been using the C70 since release so here are my suggestions if you're look at one:
This is an all-in-one package cinema camera with an amazing size and weight. Seriously. Coming from any other cinema camera this one fits like a glove in my (admittedly large) hands so I can easily shoot handheld or on gimbal. But that may not be for everyone as some people prefer the boxy cinema camera style. Personal preference.
The image with the new RAW update is incredible and puts it closer to the C300 III than I had thought it'd be. Coloring in Resolve is *chefs kiss* with the new RAW files. So much DR and latitude to play with my image.
No need for rigging for what I do which is corporate work and documentary. I have yet to find a use for a cage since the autofocus is fantastic even with its quirks (though not as good as the R5) and the ports for HDMI and mini-XLR cover my needs. I use Kondor Blue's Mini-XLR to XLR braided adapter cable. Don't go cheap like on Amazon because the one on Amazon I got sucked nuts and caused so much interference.
You can't go wrong with either camera, but I wanted to throw my 2 cents in from using it extensively for well over a year.

Things to know:
You'll need a different plate if you plan to mount it to a Ronin RS2. Pretty cheap options on Amazon like smallrig's extended sideways plate or entire plate arm.
RF lenses are great. I have the holy trininty and love them, but part of me wishes I had just gone with the normal EF L glass instead since the new RF ring crap on the lens is pointless and messes with my muscle memory. Again, personal preference though.

[KenFlanagan]

Once again an amazingly high quality breakdown. Thank you so much. One thing though which is often overlooked is the operability of the cameras in the real world scenarios. You touch on it here but there is something bizarrely unique about cube based design that trumps everything and the lack of controls makes the experience of using the Komodo more similar to using a film camera. It makes the Komodo seem a far more universal shooting experience whether hand held or on the shoulder. Although the Komodo requires more rigging it’s flexibility means that that rigging is usually non proprietary and universal. It’s rare to go on set any where and see a camera being used without an onboard 5 or 7 inch attached or evf. This makes the Komodo’s cube and any other cube an easy base to expand from and likewise the accompanying power solution needs for the normal set of accessories via v lock is perfectly accommodated by the Komodo design and additional v luck solutions that simply snap on the back. Doing all this with the other cameras becomes more of an issue. We are fortunate to have all three of these cameras but the simplicity of the Komodo and it’s stripped down menu and form factor alone makes it so easy to choose and use even though this choice seems completely counter intuitive given that each the fx6 and c70 out of the box seem a breeze to use too and far more featured. It’s just a case of whether their own monitors can be trusted and once we pass that line to expand or not expand the rig then everything unravels. I don’t know whether arri own the copyright but why don’t we have more evfs like the arri mvf 2 that are universal? Small hd used to do the sidefinder but no more. In terms of design and operation it would transform these cameras. The alternatives are such compromises. I guess looking at these cameras I really couldn’t disagree more that there is no such thing as the perfect camera. This video proves that there is but manufacturers refuse to make it. It’s the Komodo metal cube with top screen menu ui and app, the grip and nd of the fx6, and the full frame rf mount of the v raptor and canon auto focus of the r5. A reversion of the small hd sidefinder and v mount or b mount solution, with io on the rear ac side as additional units ala the Komodo third party solutions. Shooting 6k raw and pro res ala the Komodo with maybe better low light but not by much. Full sensor 50fps would be great. Is it really too much to wish for?? Btw the kinefinity mavo edge 6k is that camera but for the fact that politics and the nature of brand competition have relegated this camera to an expensive proprietary side note excluding it from what is acceptable and practical amongst workflows and common considerations for price and investment in a camera system. Thanks so much again for your excellent work. So much appreciated.

[MrDschaen]

Thank you CVP for constantly delivering terrific and well-paced content that is a combination of great research, lots of experience with the actual products and beautiful cinematography. It really stands out, well done as always!

[simonehrenheim]

The fx6 is the best all in one package. Full frame, great DR, ND filter, 4k 120p, good ergonomics, autofocus…

[JakeGleim]

C70 is getting dual pixel eye auto focus on December 8th through firmware.

[tylerlarson]

Tools for different things. I love the Komodo, its image, global shutter, color flexibility, size, shape, and versatility make it a great camera for even the highest end work. If I had to go straight doc style, I'd probably choose the canon for the simplicity and bullet proof design as well as the autofocus. I've always had a harder time with Sony, but have seem plenty of incredible things shot on them.

[loudandclearmedia]

I own a Komodo, DSMC2 Dragon-X, Pocket 6K, and a grip of Sony mirrorless bodies. Of all those, the one that gets the most use for video, is the A7Siii. The Komodo IMO is the best camera for several reasons, but even with its killer app and small form factor it is more of a chore to shoot with. I think a lot of it comes down to the current Sony alphas having professionally reliable autofocus. It just works, whereas with the Komodo I've had focus hunts when something strays from that box even just a little. Eye tracking autofocus is a big deal for single operators or small crews. I'll take that every time over an extra stop of dynamic range or a built in ND.

[ElliotSlade]

Komodo just crushes it for Narrative. I'd use the FX6 for ANYTHING commercial (and C70 for anything really)
The Sony Camera's can't seem to shake off their commercial/corporate look. I've seen a few features shot even on the Fx9 and it still kinda looks like a commercial. Komodo out of camera is some of the best looking footage when transformed into REC 709 with the correct settings, R3D files are just absolute beasts.

[Derrick_Evans]

Gotta mention the fx6 auto nd filter seems pretty cool

[hellozzh]

Have all 3 of them, my work got very specific requirment, which is extremely compact, and easy to hold all day without hurt my back/shoulder/neck. In my very personal experience, I love low light performance. Because I shoot a lot of doc in place WITHOUT ANY GOOD LIGHT. komodo is not going to work well unless I got an f1.2 lens with focal reducer which gives it 1 stops of extra light. C70 and fx6 both work well under low light, fx6 is really good at extreme light condition.

FOR SIZE AND WEIGHT CONCERN!! I have to handheld camera for long time, some time even over 20 hours. For the good of my personal health, every 100g is a concern point for me. Therefore, if I already know I will shoot under day time, I will always carry komodo with just an good 3.5mm mic, a 5" monitor, a zoom lens, and 2 small size v mount batteries. c70 is kinda bulky im hand, but works well if you only need hold it for few hours or half day with minimal rig. FX6 is suprisly light weight consider how big it looks like, BUT! when you add top and side handle, I JUST WANT CARRY AN TRIPOD for it!!! There is no such thing called minimal rig for fx6, you MUST use that big fat top handle for audio. so no light weight run n gun option. the side handle is also fat as really hurts when I really need low light performance but dont want carry a full size "CINEMA" camera.

FOR FILES, I don't think there will be any problem for any of these 3 camera, an average pc or m1 mac book will do the job. With the powerful addons and edit software, they are all just some different style of click on your computers, no one is more difficult than others. if you want just use clips right out of the camera, use canon then, because red usually need way more noise reduction, and sony sometime just got that really wired yellowgreen ish tint especially on skin tone.

In my best conclusion, the final winner is the FX3, hahaha, yes it's got all I need for my work on the go, extreme low light performance, super light weight, got 1 power bank or 5 tiny sony battery could last me 1 day, all of them could fit right in my pocket.

I don't know what to say, for my work, my client really don't care what machine I use as long as the image seems decent. It ticks every box, easy to carry to sneak in anywhere, reliable power source, useable audio, minimal rig, able to hold it for very long time with bare hand, good lowlight performance, great image. I can't find myself use fx6 c70 or komodo anymore since I got the fx3.

and I even start use it for some commercial work, it really works well compare to fx6, c70 or komodo. I can't believe such small camera can really do the job that I use to need a camera weight like 25 kg at least and need 3 people to make is run.

[IndioA]

Bit Depth is the most important. Marketing wise some companies say 16 bit !! Some say 12. Usually it's 12 bit log or 16 bit linear. These are considered to be THE SAME.

REDCODE is probably 16 bin linear wavelet based (they usually are very secretive about this),
ARRIRAW is 12 bit LOG uncompressed (larger files)
Sony RAW (higher end cameras) is 16 bit linear 3:1 compression (larger files)
Blackmagic DNG is 12 bit LOG, mild compression (larger files)
Blackmagic BRAW is 12 bit log, much higher compression (smaller files)

All of those codecs are capable of capturing high dynamic range images. Some of them look worse than others when compressed. Some of the very highly compressed smaller files on REDCODE can look very mushy in low light. BRAW in it's most compressed can also loose a lot of very fine detail which is RESOLUTION not DR.

DR = Bit Depth
Compression = Resolution

[willgiovi]

Haven’t used the other two, but the FX6 came in clutch during extreme summer heat in the American South and the ND worked great. It takes some effort to get the best picture possible, but it’s a great camera

[AlexanderKlose]

Thanks for the massive infos and time you put in. Hard to compare the Komodo to the two others. Komodo is barebones while the others come with decent audio, NDs and beautiful AF Features.

There is one thing that made the Komodo my workhorse for my main work. for pure Color, motion and image I pick the Komodo at all times.

I do a lot of product and lifestyle content. that includes fashion, tabletops and broll of Talents on set. Since I got the Komodo a lot of clients are amazed by the images they see out of the Komodo.

Even on set, Just slap one of Reds internal luts on to fit the clients vision and applause is save every time!

Haven’t had that happen on set to images we created on sony or canon. Fiddeling with all that S and C log stuff is just not straiggt forward for me. R3D is just one of a kind to work with!

On the tech and handling side its truely a different story. Especially for events or run and gun with an ultra fast output I‘d definitely advise Fx6 or c70. batterys, media body and go! easy and quick.

So in the end there is no good or better. Only the right tool for the right job.

[alexanderdavidyuk]

Used on dif projecst all three (rent) and finally bought FX6. Komodo is great cam but you need to rig it every time (it's ok for commercials but for corporate and doc not so) and really bad in lowlight (compare to others two), C70 is simple camera to use with, you can just get it from rental house 2 hours before shooting and setup it quickly, but it is not good for scenarios other than run and gun because of form-factor and difficult rigging. IMO FX6 is most universal, you can use it in multi-cam story, it has all I/O you (and sound guy, and focus puller) need. No rigging or cage need for most work, perfect doc and corporate camera but it's not that camera you can get in rental in day you planning to shoot if you never working with Sony cinema cameras before, because menu logic is HELL, its so overcomplicated and frustrating! 🥵

Conclusion: all three cams are really good and you can get excellent image from any. Just get "right" cam for your type of works.

[verebellus]

i recently picked up a Blackmagic 6k g2 and I'm so happy with it

[ScottieVee]

I love my C70's for the image and ease of use. That pretty much ends the discussion for me. I hear great things about the Komodo. Although a lot of the comments are The Komodo is great but... you have to ABB it all the time, too much set up, no NDs. The FX6 is a camera I strongly thought about. The Auto ND is pretty incredible for outdoors. But they lost me when I heard you had to run software just to stabilize the footage. We are in a time of minimizing steps and protocols. The camera that gets me further away from "Murphy and his laws" wins. Canon. C70 & R5c.

[cobymarcum]

Up front cost of FX6 is very transparent to start (or keep) shooting. Up front cost of Komodo can go through the roof in a heartbeat. Both are great cameras.

[bluehoudini]

These are 3 cams I looked at and ended up with the Sony fx6. The Red will set you back around 9k to get it up and running.