4 signs you're dealing with a pietist

[plattevilleclarks]

Good thing Hans Fiene over at Lutheran Satire taught us that "Deeds not Creeds" is in fact a creed. Thanks for the work on these videos.

[wandawilkening]

This video is so profound in its simplicity and truth. As a recovering pietist, I can tell you this hits the nail on the head. Been there. Done that. Done that for almost fifty years of my Christian life and now no more by God's grace. Very thankful for these videos Pastor Wolfmueller. I will be using my video notes as a check if I'm ever tempted to slip back into pietism.

[traviswoyen]

Having grown up deep in the heart of Scandinavian American Lutheran Pietism, you pretty much wrapped that up in as succinct and accurate a bundle as I've seen.

[EmilyHercamp]

An EXCELLENT explanation that brings clarification to previous phases of my Christian life. Thank you for sharing! 😊

[anthonyhilton]

Btw Pastor Will Weedon has a good book, Thank, Praise, Serve, and Obey", that outlines good Lutheran peity.

[fivesolas]

As a Calvinist, I love your channel and your content. Blessings my brother.

[bigderfla]

Would it be correct to say the difference between piety and pietism is this: piety is when we do good works because we are saved, but pietism is when we do good works so that we might be saved?

[judithtaylor]

I recoil in horror and shame at my feeble pious acts that seemed so meaningful at the time. I’m so thankful for videos such as these that clarify and refine the Law/Gospel message.

[martinjohnson]

Pietism curls back on the individual. Instead of loving God and one's neighbor, it's self love above all else. It's like limping through one's walk of faith with ingrown toenails, rather painful and inhibiting.

[kellymontgomery]

deeds without creeds are the roots of "social justice." Creeds without deeds are the root of rigidity, and spiritual calcification, ossification, and lithification

[JoshuaPfeiffer]

This is very helpful stuff both in pastoral ministry and personally. Thanks!

[litlckrets]

From my experience, a HUGE problem in American Christianity is there is no concept of ongoing repentance. Like mentioned in this video, the life of a Christian is chronological - "ask Jesus into your heart", get busy being a good Christian. (Pride and despair results. So many times I felt horrible because I just couldn't understand why I couldn't stop sinning and so doubted whether I could actually be a Christian.) I'm so grateful for the Biblical understanding of repentance... and especially for God's grace and forgiveness for my own pietism!

[EpicKate]

Wow, I am so glad that you posted in the thread on the Christian Youtube Creators thread. I am definitely subbing. I am excited to learn from you and I am sharing this video in my facebook group. This is so important. This is so vital. Pietism is turning people away from true fullfillment, repentance, love and refreshing in their lives. Be mightily blessed, and thank you so much for making this video. Here is a can of worms questions. Do we refuse to call transgendered people by their perferred pronouns and names? How will they possibly listen to us talk of God loves if we do that to them?

[sarco]

In Martin Luther's treatise "Christian Liberty" he stated, "Our faith in Christ does not free us from works but from false opinions concerning works, that is, from the foolish presumption that justification is acquired by works." I think that this is another danger of pietism, the belief that we contribute to our justification by providing the necessary amount of piety. In American evangelicalism our piety is measured not so much by doing good works as by avoiding those things that "good Christians" don't do, like drinking alcohol, getting a tattoo, listening to secular music, etc. If we steer clear of all these naughty things than we will have done our part to earn our justification.

[tashav]

Thank you, pastor! Never though about it in this way. Very helpful.

[villarrealmarta]

I think there’s a middle, and you are highlighting two extremes. The one makes not enough of faith life, and the other makes too much of faith life, so that no one ever seems genuine enough.

[judithtaylor]

Thanks again for this important teaching.

[davidpostma]

I have been raised in a radical Dutch Pietism. I took the position of Justification by faith, and, meeting with the elders to defend faith unto justification and obedience unto a godly walk, the elders replied that they had no idea what I was talking about. When I said that I denied Justification by works, they hated me. This after 37 years of membership, and overall faithful pulpit. But the pew was pietist and after I denied the justification by works, they hated me, my sweet wife and my sons. We stood together. They didn’t just discount us as lower than they, they wanted us in hell.

[mr.erinavery]

How has "pietism", as distinct from normal piety, in our American culture, been shaped or buttressed by Existentialism? Does Protestantism in general base its understanding of piety on Existential beliefs and philosophy more than or instead of the Bible?

[JeffGrahams]

I enjoyed this message. All glory be to God the Father God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. God's peace to all. Amen.