ProtonMail Sends User IP and Device Info to Swiss Authorities.

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[duser]

Man this is the issue with privacy. Cant have shit on the internet. Nothing is simple. You genuinely have to isolate every single account and aspect of your digital existence like a schizoid. Thanks for that lesson Kenny.

[slimyklerburt]

ProtonMail logs IP's? Well thankfully I'm protected by ProtonVP- oh.

[ilovesmosh]

he's really dropping b-15 truth bombs.

[enricogolfen]

four eyed cat-man is telling the truth nobody wants to hear

[minecrafter]

Imagine a government being so afraid of protesting youths that they order a foreign police force and company to give them intel. Firstly, WTF?! Secondly, if they are so anxious, it seems like we are on the right path.

[notafbihoneypot]

I and protonmail have a lot in common.


(For the grammar)

[Fiscotte]

Made in Switzerland and neutrality and all that is absolute BS.

-A swiss

[afallingtree]

and thats why i stick with this channel, even after getting laughed out of the protonmail subreddit he still didn't stop trying to educate people. i wonder what'll happen if he goes back to that subreddit to post this video.

[avonhertz]

the difference between conspiracy and reality is once again a few months.

[KSPAtlas]

Me: Switches to protonmail because MO recommended it once

MO: Makes a video that Protonmail is spooky

[anon]

he's like simpson of tech world now

[LLPOF]

I use the free version of Proton mail simply because it is not Google, Yahoo, or Microsoft.
Proton Mail is not nor ever will be "safe". As a matter of fact, there is not a single email service in existence that is "safe".
Never has been, never will be.
Same thing for VPNs. If your adversary is the government, using Tor is not going to help either, if they really want you.

[gradientO]

In all seriousness, email as a standard is very aged and there's no point in making it secure. We should move on to newer but secure communication platforms

[DeadlyDragon_]

As a network engineer and email security subject matter expert I have not once believed any of these bold claims of “no logging” and “we care about your privacy” its the trendy marketing trope that is an outright lie.

[nekoill]

What I've learned over the years is that whenever there's a hyped up "privacy tool", it's either a straight up honeypot or just a huge glow-in-the-dark alphabet boi magnet, so you're almost always better off using some relatively obscure tech with a small and hush following. This principle has not let me down once to this day.

[..]

The irony of them having "Swiss privacy" on the website... 😂👌
When I first read this story I didn't even though it was Gretas skipping school...

[DylanNyah]

What's your opinion on Lavabit? Those mfs literally shut down their entire network to protect Edward Snowden

[perpetualcollapse]

When I heard about this news, I immediately thought about the video you made lol

[Rudxain]

5:52 that's partially true. Yes, IP addresses are fundamental for the Internet Protocol to work. However, IP logging is a different thing, it means storing an IP address along with a timestamp in a DB. Once the server is done processing a request, it can throw out the address from its main memory (main memory is RAM, *not HDD, * any data deleted from RAM is permanently gone). IP logging requires data persistence, which in turn requires SSDs or HDDs for long-term preservation of data (even after deletion, because the sectors are just marked as "free space" that will be overwritten in the future).

TLDR: there is no need for logging IP addresses in storage drives, but "seeing" the IPA and holding it in main memory (temporarily) is necessary

[nuineyc]

If you really want secrecy:
0. Tell no one at all, generate no paper trail, loose
1. Whisper it in their ear with cover noise in the background. The information is never spoken around or touches a phone or computer of any kind.
2. Use a written note, possibly coded by hand. The data should never be exposed to a computer or phone.
3. You both use air gaped computers and use an encrypted drive to move the data.

The above is very secure, and only option 0 is actually secure. Its too late for me, the advertisers know my deepest desire to buy merchandise at low low