Ryzen 7 9700X Review - Have AMD Nerfed Zen 5?

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The Ryzen 7 9700X is here and on paper it doesn't seem that dissimilar from its predecessor, the 7700X, but can it offer much more performance for its $360 price tag? That's what we're going to find out!

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00:00 Introduction
00:28 Sponsor
01:22 The Elephant In The Room
01:55 Ryzen 7 9700X
04:26 How We Test
05:24 3DMark Time Spy
06:00 Blender
06:24 Corona
06:45 V-Ray
07:05 Cinebench R23
07:30 Geekbench
08:30 A Plague Tale: Requiem
08:24 Cyberpunk 2077
08:44 Cyberpunk 2077 RT
09:04 F1 23
09:36 Hogwarts Legacy
09:58 Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered
10:22 Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered RT
10:46 Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020
11:12 Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart
11:38 Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart RT
12:03 Remnant II
12:20 Shadow Of The Tomb Raider
12:52 Starfield
13:21 Performance Analysis
14:29 Cost Per Frame
15:31 Final Thoughts
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We noticed a mistake with the 7900X results. The memory speed is 6000 Cl30 and NOT 7400 CL36. Apologies.

eTeknix

Today on Hardware Unboxed... w..wait... this isn't Hardware Unboxed

isbestlizard

I think there are 2 sides of the story, i call it the 2 extremes, in previous generation both Intel and AMD pushed the chip to the limits, and Intel right now its having huge stability issue. i remember how people didn't like the 95c as a "DEFAULT" and "out of box" setting. AMD this generation its having looking to push efficiency and better out of box settings over everything else and they accomplish that, Without locking the chip and forcing it, With overclocking things could improve and enthusiast which previous gen complained how little headroom the chip have to gain extra performance now they should be happy to play and get every ounce of performance, again i dont see why people its complaining about this. you cant have it both ways.

eilegz

I realized you only have 24hrs with this cpu, but how come the temp and power measurements are not reported? At least that would show the improvement Zen5 made in efficiency. BTW, I appreciate you include MSFS2020 in your game testing suite.

dawelimey

Even if they are both clocked the same where is the 15-16% IPC lift?

kerotomas

Oof, looking like AMD should've focused their marketing more on the improved power efficiency.
Hopefully BIOS/driver updates will do something about those unimpressive results, otherwise this isn't looking great.

squallloire

Thanks for the review, I believe AMD in fact did "nerf" Zen 5 - but consider, Zen 4 was already pushed really hard, because Intel was already pushing their own chips through the roof. This generation, atleast in the current moment, is about efficiency. out-of-the-box, they use vastly less energy to receive the same results as the last gen. It's more "boring" i suppose than seeing performance uplifts, but they do leave a lot on the table for overclocking. Some reviewers have shown PBO test which can often times increase performance by 10%, 20% or even 25% in certain test. This is quite a bit of performance on the table for Zen 5. I would love to see some test from this channel that focus on PBO test if and when it's viable. Thanks!

HM-rznv

Good and fair review. I expected more from the 9K series, and given the name of my channel, that's about as unbiased as it gets...

AMDRyzenEnthusiastGroup

the energy effience is very good improvement !!!

KianFloppa

Last time, AMD released Zen 4 and tech reviewers went nutz about the temps. "This thing gets to 95 deg C."
AMD : "Yeah, that's what we designed it to do. It can run at that for months at a time."
Tech-tuber : "No, that's too hot. I'm in panic mode."
Next, Intel are having issues with their 12, 13th gen chips, most noticeable in the highest end SKUs, and the issue seems to cause permanent damage. There's degradation, and changing the microcode isn't going to repair the chips already degraded.
AMD say they had talks with their cloud and super-compute customers, and what those people wanted most, was not huge performance increases, it was the same performance at slightly lower clock-speeds (better IPC) and far better power efficiency. That and revised / improved protection against side channel exploits and the like.
So that's what AMD made.
This time, AMD released Zen 5 and tech reviewers are going nutz that there's only a 2 or 3% performance increase. Power use is better, but ... where's the Oomph?
I think AMD has done the sensible thing.
I think they've been very conservative about power and boost and possible thermal and power induced degradation ~ because of what's going on with Intel.
They have improved IPC, and then used that advantage to lower clock speeds.
They have improved power efficiency, and then used that to lower power use.
I hear under liquid nitrogen, the 9ooo series can do rather remarkable things.
AMD are learning from the mistakes of Intel, and being extremely careful not to put their foot in the same bear-traps.
In terms of competition with Intel, they're in a strong position, there's no pressing need to get into a discount war. Let Intel start selling stuff with zero margin ~ we don't have to do that.
For ultimate gaming performance ~ there is a 3d version coming. If you only ever switch on your Windows box to do PUBG ~ There is a 3d version due about October. Wait for that one.
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I do note, as a Linux user, the reaction of PHORONIX is much more positive and optimistic, than the reaction of fellow Australian, Steve at Hardware Unboxed.
Michael did test gaming performance, as well as a bunch of benchmarks, and Steve did test some productivity as well as lots of games, but the general reaction was that under Windows ~ hold off a few weeks for the 3d version. Under Linux, these things are a nice development and they're massively more power efficient. Performance is a little better in some things, much better in others. Anything that heavily uses AVX-512, is seeing big improvements.
Again, if you're a Windows user and gamer, maybe hold off until the 3d version lands.
As a Linux user, and hardly ever gaming, I'm very keen to get my hands on a 9950X.

Kneedragon

Thanks for all the Bemching, I know it's hard work.

antondovydaitis

According to the latest rumors and reports, AMD's X3D chips based on the Zen 5 architecture are expected to be released in September 2024. Let's just wait and see.

MatrixGamer

as owner of I5 7500, this feel like skylake-kabylake debacle all over again, minimal uplift release after 2 years for ridiculous price

Trisstan

CPU Game Benchmark without CS2? Cmon...

mYamMic

If a gamer wait for the overclocking variant. If production wait for high end parts. Only overclockers can get excited about these parts but will want the high end parts for even higher scores.

Budget gamers should just wait for strix and strix halo chips to enter the handheld and mini computer space.

gantech