AMD Updating 9000 Series CPUs in response to Performance Backlash

AMD is making some changes to the power profiles and limits on 9600X and 9700X CPUs to make them more competitive and valuable for gamers. Stay tuned to learn what changes are coming soon!

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[ksenchy]

AMD was right all along. 61% increase of power for just 10% of performance. Makes no sense in my head. It's better to just undervolt it at 65W

[jeevana.]

With a 10% performance increase for over a 60% increase in power, I'm okay with 65w being the default. Anyone who isn't an enthusiast likely won't notice a performance difference, but would appreciate better temps and efficiency.

[SysadminJohn]

I'd rather have a CPU that gets faster as things get fixed over time than a CPU that gets slower because of poor engineering choices and benchmark chasing.

[bzdtemp]

I think AMD providing a choice is great. And the 65 watt being the default is also the right choice, since for most buyers the most efficiency per watt is going to make the most sense(and that includes that don't know there is options). Simply put, unless you do some heavy lifting with your computer or gaming with a GPU to match then most will never feel the performance difference. And those that need the performance will either set up their machine them self or have some do it for them, so the 105 watt will used by them.

[abzzeus]

The reason AMD are likely running their benchmarks as _Administrator_ are that they likely will be using tools that interact with the drivers directly & as such *normal* windows security would be getting in the way (e.g. UAC / registry / driver signing / etc) with that all off they are testing with as little interacting as possible

[Waaghlogg]

I still dont understand the notion that every part in a PC has to run on max power draw and max performance as default and the controversy around " Oh just X% improvement over the last generation" and blatantly ignoring the fact that we save like 60% power over the last generation for me that just shows that some reviews are out of touch ... for normal folks that is a huge deal

[eilegz]

i disagree, 65w should be default, anything over it its optional but supported.

[Nick_R_]

I disagree with your last point. Keep efficiency mode the default. Wastrels who want a few more frames for much greater energy consumption can pursue that if they want.

[Matz]

If I had such a processor, I'd probably leave it at 65W. _Maybe_ 10% performance improvements for _that_ much difference in power draw/heat? I'd probably only turn it on if I actually had trouble meeting a playable frame-rate in a CPU-bound game, or some similar real-time process. Might be useful to extend the CPU's life, later down the road, but initially leaving it at its efficiency peak is the sensible option.
Also, they CAN'T raise the defaults, as these are already sold and integrated with other products as 65W parts and may have been placed with cooling or power solutions that wouldn't support 105W use reliably (in prebuilts, bundles, etc.). It would be a bad move to up the power/thermal requirements of a part after launch. Toggling something in the BIOS is simple enough for people who want the extra power. The kind of people who would notice ALREADY READ and customize the BIOS settings.

[lostandabandoned]

As a Windows user on a 5900x, I can tell you that yes, my cpu was being hobbled by windows. After the update, I magically gained around 10 to 15 fps more.

[TheEvdiggity]

Shipping with 105w instead of 65w is an awful idea. I'm surprised you would suggest that. Lower power draw and temps is a big plus with AMD CPUs. To throw that out the window for everyone who wouldn't know to switch to 65w mode in the bios is asinine.

[bendafyddgillard]

i would choose 65W. I don't need the last 10% of performance and the environmental cost of 60% extra power use is not acceptable. I would have thought that those who are not techie enough to know about such a switch probably don't care much about the last 10% of performance either. (or contrariwise, that those who really care about highest performance are techie enough to find the switch.) I prefer that computers came out efficient by default, so that the vast majority are efficient and stay efficient through their lifetimes and only those who really think they need the performance intentionally choose to waste the energy to get it.

[ReatuKrentor]

Subscription PCs?! How long untill I will have to pay a subscription to breathe?

[perosusinger]

12:42 I don't agree with your conclusion at all. Buying a barely noticeable 10% increase in performance with a 60% increase in power consumption is neither economically sensible nor ecologically justifiable and therefore illogical. If someone wants to boost their system, then they should do it. But for AMD setting 65W as the default is absolutely the right decision. In my opinion, in this day and age, companies are not only obliged to improve performance but more than ever they are obliged to improve efficiency.

[sirjolly]

at this point wouldn't it be better for intel and amd slow the release of new products? what we have is so dam good. imagine if we had a couple years wait. the next gen would be a huge gap and they can really get everything correct. 1 year just doesn't seem enough for them anymore.

[alexmartinelli]

My favorite update is that they're working on the inter-die latency issue toms hardware found. Super cool!!!

[HlspwnsWorld]

5900x still going strong. Any performance lifts from win updates are very welcome.
Still waiting on the 9950X3D and the 9900X3D before I consider a possible new system.

[cynic]

That additional efficiency is definitely more impressive than YOU gave it credit for. 😂

Since I’m never dealing with a CPU bottleneck I thought it was pretty impressive that there were any gains at all with that much of a drop in energy usage.

[richmal]

one of my friends was taking a picture somewhere in California and you were walking in the background...I just saw it two days ago...small world

[GoufinAround_]

I think you should test both, because one of the reasons why I was considering updating from my 5800X to the 9700X was due to the power efficiency changes. I want to know what it's running like at stock power draw because that's what is most interesting to me personally