Safes- The Nasty SECRETs they do not TELL YOU!

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I recently bought a 24 Gun Liberty Centurion safe. I have really enjoyed it but there are a few things they do not tell you about these safes!

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As a firefighter, I have 2 pointers for you to improve the potential outcome for your safe in the case of a fire. 1. Do not store ammunition or powder in your safe, it can and will cook off or burn. 2. As you mentioned the primary fire protection for your safe is the from the sheetrock inside the safe. You can improve the fire resistance of your safe by adding more layers of sheetrock outside of the safe as well. We were responding to a car fire inside of a basement garage with only a single layer of 5/8" sheetrock between the fire, and the studs / floor joists. The car was burning for at least 5-7min before our arrival. We were able to quickly extinguish the fire that had been rolling from the engine compartment up to the ceiling of the garage. The flames did not breach or even damage the sheetrock ceiling aside from damage to the exposed surface layer. To add more fire resistance add several layers of sheetrock to all sides that are not directly against a brick or concrete wall and you can add multiple layers of sheetrock to the inside of a closet door that could install in front of your safe.

rpeltz
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The best safe, is a safe that nobody knows you have.

Zodliness
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I bought one of those cheap box store safes years ago. Got it home and the lock broke within a week. I returned it to the store and shifted my strategy. After searching on craigslist for a bit I found a guy that did demo work that had recently demolished an old bank and was selling off the door. I got the door from him for $700. This door is a Mosler made in the 30s and its amazing. The gap in the door is so tight I can hardly wedge a placard into it. I then made a reinforced room in my basement for my new door. Now I have a whole vault in my home that only cost me around about $1300 in materials and a few nights and weekends worth of work. Now not only do I have a place to store valuables, we also now have a panic room and a storm shelter.

MoabYoda
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Great video. I'm thankful that the local cops take about 3 minutes to get to my house. But I don't have to worry about my guns anymore because I lost most of them when my kayak tipped over.

FrankLadd
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The best security In order of importance:
1) Make sure people don't know you have anything worth stealing to begin with.
2) Don't prominently display your safe-In fact hide it as well as you can.
3) The art of deception. Sure have a visible gun safe with a few 'sacrificial' cheapo guns inside. Hide all the good shit in a false wall in another BETTER safe.
4) Make your property a hard target. Good lighting, security system & cameras, barking dog, etc.

phil
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Whoever determines how many guns go in a safe is the same guy who determines how many people can sleep in a tent. Most long guns you should count as 2-3 guns against the capacity of the safe.

dfdbbrb
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Smart people don’t tell everyone about their safe.

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Great video! You hit a lot of very important points. As a 26+ year LEO veteran I might add - please take quality pictures of EVERYTHING you own including paperwork, serial numbers, VIN numbers etc. put them all on two thumb drives. Put one in your safe and the second in a friends or relatives safe. Police and insurance companies will thank you.

bobk.
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I'm a welder. I built a case around my safe out of AR 500 armour plate. And it's all bolted down. That's all covered by a nice wood case. Liberty uses concrete.
The safe will stay with the house when I sell .

steveb
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Retired firefighter here. Never saw a gun safe of any quality survive a full house fire. Started lockpicking as a hobby. Discovered I could beat a lot of safes in less than 20 minutes and I'm a beginner. It would take a lot of work just to find my safe. It's in a tight place with little room to work on it. Basically, it's to keep the kids safe.

Sixbears
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When i was in the army i had eight safes in my office. Whensome of the people in my unit that had a "lock out", they forgot their combinations or something else, and couldn't get into their safes. We took the safe to a person qualified to break into the safe, the dude got a big welder, cranked the power way up and got a thick stick and popped a hole in the front just above the knob and had the safe open in seconds.

bobvedder
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Best thing is to keep your safe in a hidden area like behind a false wall, can`t break into a safe that they don`t know you have.

jimiz
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Dude - I appreciate the video but PLEASE GET TO THE POINT

mrstallings
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Nothings a guarantee, but guns in a safe is better than them laying on the bed...

altonkriel
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I'm a retired sheet metal worker and 74 years old, I can get in your POS gun safe with ease. You are much better off buying a good used TL rated safe, a real cash storage safe. A long time ago a auto repair shop was broken into over and over. So they bought a huge older safe, cut a hole in the back and filled it with concrete then stood it up near the office door. They just hid the cash and checks in a hollow table covered with books and magazines in the costumer waiting room. They would break in and pound on that safe year after year, but they never had another successful robbery.

BulletSpoung
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You forgot one of the most important rules. Camouflage if they can not find it they can not break into it.

chuckwolf
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Liberty Safe also doesn't tell you that they'll give your gun safe combo the the Federal Government without your consent without requiring a warrant.

jerichofalls
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A locked door is only there to keep an honest man out.

greenspiraldragon
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I bought a small safe off Craigs list, the guy told me that a safe is to keep your friends out. A determined person who knows their way around tools can defeat most, if not all, gun safes. So a good safe is one that deters most people from unwanted access to your stuff. There are other means of fireproofing than a big metal safe but sometimes you need both. I think you can still buy fire proof pouches or install your safe in a way to give it more fire resistance. A big metal box will be like an oven, once hot; so coatings or fireproof blankets( think oven mitt) can improve resistance to heat.

robkling
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Hopefully my safe takes a crook as long as this guy drones on to get inside. Because I’ll be doing pretty good.

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