Why I switched back to Intel...

Wondering why i switched back to intel? Let's talk about it.

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[onyhow]

I wonder how Jayz will look back to this video with the i7/i9 instability issues.

[amirrezaafzalinia]

i guess you need to reverse back to ryzen

[boastyy]

7800x3D with Gigabyte b650 elite, gskill 6000 ram and 4090, been stable, no bluescreens, no slow startups. PBO on -30 and it's been good. It was my first build since owning a 4790k so was kind of nervous about not making any mistakes but thank God its been working great.

[dlizmi]

I had similar issues very early on with a 7950X, and it seemed like memory stability as well. Fast forward a week of debugging and I decided to disable the CPU's onboard AMD graphics in the device manager. I never had a memory issue again.

[rtb]

So the memory training on boot-up does not occur on the standard 7950x ? For that CPU is it the case that you turn the machine on and you are at the Windows desktop in seconds es you would expect ?

[Boobliker]

there was a bug in some of the AGESA bios a few months back that broke the memory context restore function. I would get bluescreens on startup everytime and had to reset the cmos even after relaxing memory timings. That was until I discovered turning off memory context restore fixed everything. I could even use the tweaked memory settings i was using before. I think this was fixed on some boards eventually, but not all. Just wondering maybe that was what you were experiencing.

[steveo]

Im still on am4 5900x its been such a great cpu and i will upgrade to the 9900x when it comes out next year. Getting first gen am5 was brave for anybody who did it but i thank them.

Thanks for all the likes and comments.

[Kapono]

As a 7900X user, I just don’t have the issues with Windows like Jay and others say they have.

[ViolenceCity]

Thanks for the info. Will keep this in mind if I decide to upgrade this year.

[Georg]

I've been using a 7900X non 3D without any issues for a while now. EXPO with 6000MHz in the BIOS is working fine. I have managed to get an offfset on curve optimizer that is rock solid and gives me pretty insane scores on 10 minute Cinebench R23 runs. I have memtested the rig also and it really has been flawess. No BSOD no nothing. My rig works rock solid, so I am happy with it. Oh and the CPU cooler is an AIO 360. So this is my experience with a non 3D AMD chip.

[clayc.]

That sucks to hear that you had so many issues with your system. I picked up my 7800x3d during the voltage issues and was worried because I’d picked out an Asus board along with it. But I must’ve been lucky because I haven’t had any issues with it all so far, PBO and ram set at 6000 too. It’s run like a top for me, but hopefully you have better luck on your new set up!

[MrStato]

I've been using AM5 since launch, running HyperX EXPO 6000mhz, started out with 7700x on release, then moved to 7900x 3D when it dropped, and now on 7800X 3D... besides the usual longer post times, the system is solid as a rock!

[KiralyRoland]

Kinda same problems I had to dealt with my 7800x3d, but I set BIOS to default and I don't get boot loops and blue screens anymore. Interesting to see this video from you and getting feedback or informations that these problems are on AMD's side not that I did something wrong.

[lancethebodeau]

I did experience similar issues with my first 7950 x3d, bestbuy took it without issue as defective and the replacement is stellar! High performance, multitasking and gaming monster Running EXPO 6400 zero crashes or boot issues.

[Piepopdude]

yo Jay it seems to me like the memory stability issue you were running into on am5 was that memory context restore ON but memory power down mode OFF leads to random crashes like you're describing. Leaving both on should make you stable if this is the issue. This is a very common issue for people used to turning off power down mode because it increased stability in ddr4 systems.

[hjvhho]

I feel like this could be me saying exactly the same thing, I've had the same problems as you Jay with a pretty much identical setup since April. The original bios fried my 1st cpu, I'm on my 2nd one now with the latest bios limiting soc and I'm using process lasso to handle the cores for gaming. I have spent so much time tweaking stuff to get it stable so I can use my pc every day. I have it dialed in right now but I'm constantly on edge with it, I have become a pc hypochondriac, every little temp spike makes me think it's going to crash again which isn't great but I'm stuck with it now.

[kevinp]

Jay, can you do an update video to this? Where are you at now in opinion to the two platforms? Whats coming out next and any idea what your next build will have?

[SekiberiusWelkesh]

I have a 7800x3d and it works pretty great, my ram is also 6000MHz specifically the Gskill Trident Z5 with a B650 AX motherboard. The only issue I'm having with it that I didn't have with my previous 3900x is that during shader comps the CPU temps go insane. Normally at 100% it hovers around 80c, but during shader comps I've had it reach as high to 88c. But other than that it has been surprisingly stable and performs extremely well, it almost doubled my fps in some games and almost completely eliminated stutters.
Also If you're not using the integrated GPU on the 7800x3d make sure to disable it in bios.

[stephenweishaar]

@JayzTwoCents Now that the AMD system is torn down, I would love to see you try the CPU and Memory in different motherboards and see if you have any different results. Or do the issues with the memory continue to plague the system. If that is the case, then would another brand of the same speed memory change the outcome. I have always loved trouble shooting these types of issues. Perhaps a Colab with Gamers Nexus with the system components being tested by them is in order?

[matthewhilty]

Memory Issues are a PITA . Please continue to use both platforms and let us know what is the best overall. Stability is more important when your rig is a daily driver not just a drag racer.