What does Progressive Christianity have in common with other religions? with David Wolcott

David Wolcott joins the podcast to talk about his deep dive into the world of progressive Christianity. He shares some interesting insights into what progressive Christians believe, and how those beliefs differ from historical Christian creeds. He also takes a look at some progressive creeds and discusses why progressive Christians deny the historical and biblical foundation of Christianity yet still call themselves “Christians.”

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[daverogg]

I left a progressive church before “progressive Christianity” was a term to describe it. The main reason for my departure was they started using half texts to twist scripture’s meanings, but they elevated love for neighbors above the first greatest commandment to love the Lord. Great podcast, Alisa, thank you, sister 🙏

[e.m.]

I completely agree with what you said around the 16-minute mark about Progressive Christians thinking that they are the true church and have redeemed the faith. Yikes.

[sarahsays]

Great discussion. I remember someone interviewing the author behind one faith no longer and also went over some of the things listed in that book. I've started to say I'm a historic Christian because at this point we are dealing with two different religions.

[bobc]

Very informative, thanks to you both. When the video started I am thinking "what have I got into"? Alisa, I was not disappointed. Love your channel.

[S.Carpenter]

Other than warning people about false teachers, my next big peeve is "why do they call themselves Christian?" Obviously, Christianity has enough dignity and good reputation that they see that it will benefit them to "claim" Christianity. But they are not. Thank you SO much for doing this interview, Alisa.

[alanalynn]

"Go away I never knew you" takes on a whole new meaning. Good interview ❤

[cathyjohnson]

This was an excellent episode! I watched twice and learned so much.

[MerBlack]

Thank you both! Incredibly educational!

[markbowman]

These issues are still largely ignored so thanks for driving the discussion and getting people talking about what is really happening in the lives of many who are struggling with their Christian faith. John's second letter addresses a lot of these issues, deceptive teaching against the truth (reality) of Jesus and how he describes what love and obedience look like.

[smalltownmomma]

I was first introduced to Ian Morgan Crohn in 2013 at the national worship leader conference and I had been a believer about 6 years, and I remember him holding up a Bible and saying we needed to stop “worshipping the Bible” and it sent alarm bells off, like “what in the world?” And not agreeing with his talk, but couldn’t understand why, partly because I was still a pretty baby Christian. Well. Now I know because I’ve grown and he’s become more blatantly heretical😳

[steveemig]

I was in Bill Gothards basic youth conflicts seminar back in May of 1973. Portland Oregon. I asked Jesus to be my Saviour at this time. Thanks for the information on his ministry.

[glennshrom]

Excellent discussion. Thank you. I'll just point out that John 8.32 is often quoted out of context, as if it were saying "If" you know the truth, "then" you will be set free. The condition for being set free is not knowing simply the truth (or a truth, or confessing a truth). The condition is in verse 31. "If" you obey my teachings, then three things will be the result: A: you will be my disciples, B: You will know the truth, and C: that truth will set you free.
Where this "if" clause is on another level misunderstood, is that some groups construe it as "if you follow these rules that I lay down", whereas actually Jesus is talking about a whole body of teaching that includes recognition of the Messiah, the need to receive the Holy Spirit and be born again, understanding that God is good to all, the explanations of reasons why we don't have to worry, etc. etc.
In particular, it was the Pharisees who were rejecting Jesus' teaching while claiming to hold to Moses, whereas Jesus was saying that not only did Moses' teaching point to Jesus, but that Jesus, as the Messiah, was an even greater representative of God and God's word than what Moses was, one regarding whom God would hold everyone accountable for heeding what Jesus spoke, as an even greater responsibility than the responsibility to take Moses seriously. By taking Jesus seriously we will become his disciples, knowing the truth (knowing what is firm, unshakeable and reliable to the end), and be freed in that security. It is more important to be a disciple of Jesus than it was to be a disciple of Moses. Jesus is the most reliable representative of God, and the embodiment of (the message) what God wants all to know about His nature and how He relates to creation (in purposes, love, sacrifices, patience, promises, etc.)

[shannonlunser]

I love David!! He is the only reason I miss being on Facebook. This was such a fantastic episode, I need to listen to it a few more times because there was so much to take in!

[gotherock]

Great definitions. I really like David's, but the simplified other one is a great simplification.

[followjesus]

Thanks for having this conversation, I kept wondering why they call themselves Christians?

[Lilacs]

Love the content!! Still having bleeding ears from the transitions 🔊💥🥲 Please fix asap 🙏❤

[Martin_Adams]

A lucid and very helpful discussion. I know the Bible well; but from this discussion I have gleaned several things that will help me in my quite frequent conversations with folk who say they are Christians — (and I tend to assume that they are, even if I have profound points of disagreement with them) — but who are deeply affected by the presuppositions of progressive Christianity. Thank you.

[annb]

Jordan Peterson interview with bishop Barron goes into some of this this was a good interview Alisa

[carolcollins]

Why would an atheist go to a Christian church except to start trouble?

[rwj]

I went to theological college with a progressive Christian who said he was happy to say the Creeds, but he interpreted the words how he wanted and not how others would.