NoFap Isn’t Always A Good Thing

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Balance and Temperance is always key in the unfolding of all pursuits.

MyPeople_MyTribe
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No extreme radical behavior is good. Pornography is bad. I think the issue is that men with a pornography addiction would need to resolve that first.

However, Judaism and Buddhism strongly advises against men wasting seed.

rafiqjennings
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I heard this from healthygamer that the way to cure addiction is not be desparate. You should neither desperately seek or avoid the addictive thing, addiction means that something has taken control of your mind. If you do it recreationally ie you do it for enjoyment and not to function then it is not an addiction.

debarjandatta
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As someone who has a problem with fapping, I agree. Don't hyperfixate. If you have a problem, get someone to keep you accountable and keep yourself busy. Start a YouTube channel, hit the gym, cosplay, anything to keep yourself entertained and busy. I started a YouTube channel a few weeks ago, I was so focused and entertained I didn't focus or care about fapping. It helped me reach my highest amount of time without fapping. I feel like I have more control now, I still fap sometimes but I don't feel like I'm forcing myself. Good luck this NNN

Hi_Herbert
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2 days in NNN and this is going fine. Stay strong boys we can get through this and we will win.

GarfieldClown
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Exactly, I see that this guy is ACTUALLY very intelligent

mememachine
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I wouldn’t say suppressing it. I’d actually say channelling that energy towards doing something else. Going to the gym, getting on a bike, a physical work schedule, etc all help repurpose that urge to a new direction.

mythmakroxymore
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You are looking a little more jacked bro. Nice 😎

Shilo
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I have personal experience on this topic since I started f*pping at a very young age and also have gone for periods as long as 8 months without f*pping many years before no f*p started. I agree that being extreme is a problem and think that doing no f*p, especially for long periods (after puberty) is unhealthy based on the issues I had including intense prostate pain after ending even shorter periods of no f*p. I think f*pping can be a healthy way of expressing and exploring your seggsual needs and can also prevent you from getting into unhealthy relationships or marriages due to desperation. I do believe that f*pping can become unhealthy and think that working on self worth and relationship knowledge could help prevent this. My personal thoughts are that a large portion of the no f*p movement tries to manipulate feelings of guilt and shame for reasons I haven't figured out yet although most christianity says f*pping is a major sin without providing any valid, logical or biblical reasons why this is the case. It could also be due to trolls trying to fuel the alleged "war between the s*xes." It could also be a reaction to women doing OF, which I personally think may be a better alternative to the p*rn industry since it is possibly less exploitative of the actresses who also have more choice in the content they want to make and how they want to be treated. I am still trying to decide whether or not p*rn is harmful, I could probably be said to be have been addicted to it before, and I got into it at a much younger age than was good for me. I do believe it has some educational benefits especially about female anatomy but think that this has been offset by terrible attitudes towards womens pleasure and experience of s*x in the history of the p*rn industry. I think that p*rn and f*pping could probably be called harmful if either or both of them are preventing you from getting into relationships or are causing or reinforcing negative attitudes towards women (or men) in you. I think that an even more important topic may be the seggsualization and p*rn usage of kids at a young age (which is an epidemic at the moment) and how this can be prevented.

OwenDM
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I think for you to do nofap if it takes time and energy and you have to hyper fixate to not fap then that's the problem itself, why do you guys have to make life soo complicated? Just don't do it simple, doesn't mean you have to spend all of your energy into not doing it because you don't

factsworld
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As the saying goes

Too much of anything is a bad thing

yeshhhhhhh
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Prawnhub my favorite place to pick up boiled prawns sometime they even catch crabs.

overlordIV
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Thanks antiprophet that totally is the information i just needed 🤣.

icewolfwolfie
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Urologist on the line😁 Even if chasting, don't use saliva as a lubricant because it contains a huge amount of opportunistic and condinional-patogen flora. The same s*et with oral sex. Transmitted directly or indirectly through male reproductive organs to a woman, these flora can cause chronic inflammatory diseases (adnexitis, salpingo-oophoritis, endometritis, etc.)
Chronic inflammatory process very often leads to adhesions, obstruction of the tubes and even unnoticed (!) miscarriages at the very early stages. Because adhesions can complicate the passage of a fertilized egg through the fallopian tubes and lead to the impossibility of its implantation; or it can damage the embryo.
Of course it doesn't 100% mean that it would be so, but many infections are carried either asymptomatically or harmlessly (opportunistic flora, for example, golden staphylococcus), but pose a danger to your spouses, especially if they have weak immunity, for example, staphylococcae or streptococcae spp. They "sit" on the mucous membranes for a long time and don't show themselves, but once catching a cold or just the immunity is lowered, the fun begins. If not treated, it will go into chronicity and then everything that i described earlier.
BUT if you want such caresses, then use a condom (or latex napkin) with changing it afterwards for vaginal sex.
So, take care of yourself, and do not allow a minute of pleasure, which then comes to years of treatment and problems. All the best!
P.S. ah, and yes, brushing teeth or alcohol won't help, cause most of flora nowadays is resistant to ethanol.
P.P.S. And, from my own medical experience, never use intrauterine devices (IUD), contraception pills etc. IUDs also drastically increase vulnerabilities to infections and inflammations, almost 100% it will cause endometrium inflammation, and all hormonal contraception means totally disrupt very sublte and delicate women's hormonal system, sometimes even irreversibly. Unfortunately such results occur much more often than it officially claims to be, maybe because of powerful pharmacy lobbys.
I would also consider going to another doctor if your one prescribes you hormonal means "for any cause". Today many of them do that just because of lobbying.
In addition, this is not suitable for everyone from an ethical point of view, because spirals or hormones are also the same abortion in essence, because they do not allow the fertilized egg to attach to the endometrium.
Even COCs basically work this way, although the instructions only describe it as one of the mechanisms, so as not to scare off clients.
In general, if you want to use contraception, use condoms, or if your wife has a long cycle, go to folliculometry once a month to clearly track ovulation in your partner, and calmly make love without condoms 2-3 days after the confirmed end of ovulation (i.e. presence of corpus luteum and absence of other dominant follicles).
But this method is applicable only if you live your whole life with one partner, and are not going to change him at least. It's not only about venereal diseases, but also about opportunistic flora. Take this responsibly to not spread bacteria from someone else's vagina around the world😁

Nfsbelka
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I feel the same way and I’ve always said that people that hyper fixate on Chastity or just as weird and obsessed with sex as sex addicts. I’ve always said that and I think it’s weird.

UJC
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I would say just keep control on yourself on your mind don't over focus do other activities I play games alot of games

DEViL_X
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I get where he's coming from, but one can't let their guard down too much. Once an addict, always an addict in my experience. Sure it's gotten easier over the years, but that established "neural architecture" is still always there, just _waiting_ to be reactivated when you least expect it. Best to still aim for the bare minimum.

AnadonAyleid
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Just balance brothers... Not more not less...

clomus
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I don't think about it a lot
I don't term it as a good or bad thing
I just count my days of no fap and just make sure that I don't do it quite often.
And whenever I relapse I make sure that I actually enjoy it.

rahul-rzuj
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Man, weird place to vent but, I am someone who has very low dopamine levels on a daily basis, It takes actual effort for me to stop using my phone and get up to start my day every morning, Fapping is dangerous for me, I just end up on an endless loop of cheap dopamine spikes and doing nothing for the rest of the day, this ain't even about being defiant with your post or anything, I'm just another internet user and I hope if anyone else finds themselves in this hole that they can get out.

lucaslescano