Why i am QUITTING Wuthering Waves for Zenless Zone Zero

in todays video i will be going over why im quitting Wuthering waves for zenless zone zero, all of my current frustrations with the game, the problems that are being fixed, and some outlandish things i want to see in the game.

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0:00 - Im quitting wuthering waves
0:30 - Problems ppl are having
1:50 - Echo is cope
4:56 - The active time i have to play the game
6:29 - The Time investment is too much for me
7:22 - Reward to time investment
8:16 - Why i am Quitting to play Zenless zone zero

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[milmil]

So basically: 🤔 WuWa is an actual game that players "play". So, for people such as yourself with minimal time & energy, who want a game that mostly plays itself (or is easy enough to feel that way), Hoyoverse titles such as ZZZ would be better.

I would also recommend idle games in that regard.

I do feel like WuWa needs to add more features for casuals to retain them over time. This is important for live service gachas.

And I do agree that since we have to do legwork exploring the world, hunting shinies, solving puzzles, and doing boss challenges in various game modes..., I think Kuro Games needs to simplify dailies to the point that they don't take time away from players to complete.

For example, we could use an auto skip for mundane grinding in modes like the training simulations (the one you use to grind for exp, weapon exp, etc. from the NPC in town).

That way people have more time and energy to spend on events, puzzles, world exploration, and bosses.

Hopefully instead of just silent quitting, people will share their feedback with the devs since they are very responsive.

[squarebrain]

Dude, you basicly don't want to play action games, you want to play AFK Arena. Hypocricy about getting "relics" in Hoyo games is stunning.

[Lunalight-shtp]

As a person who is actually playing wuwa doesnt take time at all max 5 to 10 min a day to spend energy and dailies

[reydez]

Play afk journey bro, thats more your game 😂😂😂

[shevek]

Must be hate bait expecting Tectone to react to it or something like that

[Tanoshi]

No way my man said "I didnt get perfect echos in first month of the game so I quit it"

[tobiaswolf]

I actually think that the daily grind in the game is really really low. You do not really need to farm echos for the majority. Maybe support echos. Why is that? Because you get echo selectors in events. So it is quite casual friendly in the end already. You will do less progress with that but you also invest way less time in the game.

[vietpham]

bro is announcing his departure like he's some sort of important person who the game cannot exist without. the main character syndrome is real. .

[maccavann]

I get where you're coming from. Personally, I can only manage 2-3 gacha games at most, maybe just 2. I'm past the point where I want to juggle multiple games; I simply don't have the energy for that anymore. It's not that the games I play now are bad, but I prefer ones I can invest time in without too much hassle. That's why I enjoy Honkai Impact 3rd and Honkai: Star Rail. My other non-gacha games are great for downtime since they're single-player and I can pick them up whenever I feel like it. Overall, I totally understand and agree with what you said about some games being too grindy.

[oatmilkfaerie]

So are you quit quitting or Mtashed quitting? 😂

[jcgl-uejr]

Play casual recieve casual rewards, as simple as that, idk why are you expecting perfect Echos or solid RNG if you're casual.

You want to be on top of the end-game content, but keep telling everyone how you are a "casual".

Also HSR fun button? you mean the auto-play? THEN WHY ARE U PLAYING WUWA LOL. "This game requires my hands to play, unacceptable" LMAO

[sarcastoon]

im halfway in this vid.. feels like its either a a bait or prolly the most stupid take ever.. lmao

[HungPhamTu]

This is not an airport no need to annouce your departure.

[SILVERWOLF]

Do you know how many times Mtach has quitted

[tevallockheart]

I play wuwa casually, i love the concept of wuwa, if i have more free time i can choose to grind hunt echo, but if not i just farm echo from tacher field. yeah maybe because of that i will be left behind in term of my char build, but just play for fun right. ZZZ for now is not for me because of its art style but will reconsider if the story is great.

[nikelas]

Why do all the loser gacha "content creators" love announcing when they're leaving?

[prionz]

This rant feels a bit stupid to be honest, will zzz have an autoplay? and honestly why would you like something like that??? If you want a game to have a button not to play whats the point? by your logic you won't enjoy both of them... both have RNG mechanics too and will need to play daily, that's the point of gacha games...

[Nerick]

I spend 20 minutes a day doing the dailies, I love the combat, but the most discouraging aspect is the echoes.

I can stomach the terrible randomness for the echoes; however, being incentivized to spend hours grinding for echoes is a bit much for me. I would rather do my daily trailblazer farming for relics and then call it good for the day.

I'm still sticking with it for now, but I'm going to see how it feels to just do tacets for my slow echo grind. The double event felt nice and I got a few decent echoes out of it. So if it feels okay just doing dailies and the main story, I might stick around.

[nightmarenova]

Interesting take to say the least! I respect it but here is my experience : I recently came back to HSR soley because of Firefly and to upgrade her talents and get her best relics you had to have beaten almost all of the new story which for a "casual" F2P player was very hard, i managed to cheese the Swarm Disaster not too long ago with my DoT team with the addition of Gallagher who's insane and i beat Aventurine with Firefly and two supports but it took me like a solid 30/40mins due to limited amount resources i could give to FF.

All of HSR took way too long for me but since i had time these days and i was free i could do it and i don't regret it i guess. FF is amazing and i enjoyed the story.

WuWa - lost a 50/50 to Jinlin and stopped pulling after building up pity to 70... So once Jinshi came out i got her in a single pull cause of my pity. I just finished the newest main story quest and i was quite happy with it as well. It was very good and stort.

So story wise, no problems time wise.

Daily's, they've added more stuff for us to do to complete daily missions so also very good, very quick, could have been done within 5-10mins tops.

Echo farming, i have Encore who has 60% Crit Rate and 230% Crit damage with 1700 attack and i played casually for those echoes almost daily and used the double drop rate event for Tacet Fields to help me.

Will i have to farm for Jinshi now, probably yes, and a lot for sure, but im expecting to finish everything in a day for sure!

You are CC and im assuming a little bit of a guide maker as well so you are probably thinking that you "have to do it" right then and there but that's usually very hard with gacha games.


HSR takes much more time to get what you want although it has some good strengths over WuWa and WuWa has good things over it. HSR is still more time consuming.

We'll see what ends up being the case for ZZZ, if it's a casual game awesome, or is it gonna follow thee classic gacha gaming workflow!

Sorry for yapping so much and thanks for sharing your opinion! 🙏❤️

[MortiferGnome]

Wuwa is my favorite right now, even after finishing all the content. I just like the way it plays. Star Rail is #2, and Genshin I just login and get the no-effort primos every day and bail. I don't really understand why ZZZ has any hype at all. I don't like the motif, and all the gameplay I've seen has not appealed to me. I know, to each their own.