We need to talk about Teenage Engineering (and GAS)

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W need to talk about Teenage Engineering (and GAS)

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0:00 My Discord is Poppin’
0:11 About Teenage Engineering
4:45 GAS and the gear / synth industry
7:20 When does GAS become a problem ? (in my opinion)
8:30 Teenage Engineering’s Impact on GAS

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My Discord is poppin' - join up ! :-)

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LiamKillen
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Gas seems manifest itself near the end of day. The secret is to sleep it off, and see how you feel about it. Clarity is somehow better in the morning as compared to lower will power in the evening.

jthek
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That whole "I buy a piece of gear to rush to make an ad about it using my lifetime of experience as a musician... and then publish it on a platform I spent years building" part... that's at a similar depth as humans being a part of the universe looking inwards marveling of its own existence.

Your other point about that shiny new gear chipping away from the time you could spend mastering your existing gear is also spot on. Yes, exploring different workflows to understand which ones you enjoy the most is worth it, but only to a degree.

Thanks for a great video.

sinewaymusic
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I have learned to spend as little time as possible talking about Teenage Engineering.

desktorp
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Sometimes I take a step back and think about how deep acoustic instruments like piano and guitar are. So much self expression and music across virtually limitless genres have been made with the same “patch” of a piano or acoustic guitar. What’s helped me with GAS is looking at purchases as instruments rather than “gear”. Designs that stand the test of time and have use across genres appeal to me more now and help me see through cool, but ultimately un-useful “stuff”.

LordAus
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The more time I spend on the ep133 the better it gets though. I think TE put a lot of thoughts into how instruments are programmed and what possibilities and creativity they open up within their own limitations like no other brands have IMHO. The workflows they propose have a learning curve to them but once you master the advanced concepts they become extremely capable and unique.

mad.operator
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I watch your channel to avoid purchasing gear I don’t need. So in many ways you are the GAS antidote. I also like the fact that you are usually not a day one guy. I prefer reviews, tutorials, and jams on gear that you have worked with for a while.

barrywhite
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The poor quality control, the lack of documentation and the crap customer support are the things that bug me about TE.

dkappe
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I waited till the KO2 when on sale and I actually wish I got it sooner. It’s the only teenage engineering piece of gear I own. I have the NI Maschine mk3 but the the KO2 is great for what I do. I love experimenting with it and I use guitar pedals and other synths with it as well as guitar.

Great video. The GAS is a real thing and I’ve slowly moved away from first day preorder mania. I have so much gear that I’ve been selling a bunch and don’t even remember owning half of it. lol.
Running a recording studio informs my purchases on a as needed basis but sometimes those wants be callin me.

RPMusicStudios
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During lockdown I bought a PO-33 and discovered the world of music. After I learned a machine I bought the next step up. Now I have Elektron products and really, that is the end goal for me. Learning to make music through these machines while having fun. Getting the machines and learning them is part of me learning to make music. And all of it is fun.

neonpop
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Interesting video. Definitely agree with a lot of what you talked about. For me, videos of the OP1 got me into groove boxes and “dawless”. I never got an OP1 but my first hardware was a KO33 and it just opened my eyes so much to how fun music can be outside the computer. Before that I was only making music in FLStudio and had kind of taken a break from it. So from that standpoint I owe a lot to TE for getting me back in in such a strong way. Since then I have gotten an OPZ and Dirtywave M8 and couldn’t be happier. Haven’t opened FLStudio since. I agree that it’s a problem when you feel the need to collect them all though. Especially at their current prices. I think it was essential to me to choose to master the gear I have before getting new gear. Certainly a problem in the community though.

ZackGeragosian
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I’ve always appreciated your honesty and joy. It’s good to talk bout this kind of thing.

stylinghead
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GAS effectively exploits musician's insecurities and sense of imposter syndrome. If we were all a little more confident in our abilities using the stuff we have at hand, and being kinder to ourselves creatively, they'd find particularly difficult to get you buy the next big thing.

DeadWhiteButterflies
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This is why my favorite videos of yours are those where you have someone on who talks about how they set up their live sets, or when you talk about how pt together your own setup. There are so many companies and people trying to sell me something all day long, its refreshing to just see how you all are making music.

mazzky
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This is by far the best video I’ve seen from you in my opinion. I like your content, but this video really invokes thought and self-reflection, as well as shows us a little bit more about you as a person, and I appreciate that a lot.

lnknmusic
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I have few physical synths and guitar pedals they are not the thing I go to when making music I use My DAW Reason. Keeping gear set up and clean is just not practical in My space.

HOLLASOUNDS
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Thanks for keeping it honest, vulnerable, and genuine!

enchanterthetim
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Hello, i did not know GAS concept before watching this video. Big Thanks.
I bought a digitakt 5 years ago, as a no brainer call, without any regret, and got a lot of pleasure to explore elektron sequencer etc..
this year i bought a PO33 to try and got more fun that i've expected. So naturally, i've looking for which other TE gear i should buy, and it seems that only OP1 (field) fits to me. But ofc price did not, after few months of headache (rly), i finally bought one and I found a taste of making music that remind me my first step in electronic music (~ 25/30 years ago with Roland MC303 and a 400 bucks computer). This feeling has no cost even if i get a bit abused by TE.
(excuse my bad english)

riversofbabylon
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I find myself hopelessly buying new synths and groove boxes and never mastering anything. Then I sell them and start all over again. I see my character flaw but I haven’t fixed it yet.

ZekeSkylar
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When you look at the groovebox market, TE just doesn't make a compelling full featured product and probably never will. Anyone who's been around the space for more than a couple of years has ended up choosing 1 of 3 workflow options. 1. Elektron 2. MPC 3. Tracker (M8 or Polyend). Just choose one of the 3 workflows and go with it. Learn the device you choose well, and forget TE ever existed.

CrescentRollCarl