Another Inconsistent Argument Against the Papacy

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They are coming out with some mental gymnastics for this too.

Fm
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If anyone wants to deny something, they will deny it anyway, regardless the amount of evidence presented.

jeremiahong
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EO: says Papal claims aren't affirmed by the Early Christians because they aren't in the Canons

Me: Hold my Sardica

TheChunkyCrusader
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Right on. I've had the same experience, but years ago with orthodox, even as my friend and I went over the fathers of the church quote by quote in the series The Early Church Fathers. Special pleading is the only thing left when facing the texts and I notice that in the end it always is about their conscience---in my opinion.

widdershins
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E-Orthrodox they want they're Cake 🎂 & eat it to" I pray for all love R&T & God bless 🙏🛐💯 Catholic 🗝️🗝️

frankperrella
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Yes. And. Therefore. We. Should. All. Be. Reformed. Baptists…

I think the proper response to this is “boom, roasted!”

DavidSupina
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Perhaps an comparison between the papal claims and the real presence of the Eucharist is not really fitting in this case.

The papal claims imply a type of ecclesiastical order and supreme authority. Canos commonly also address similar, if not same, subject matters.

Not having any universally approved canons in the first millennium that affirm the papal claims is definitely a point to consider when studying the validity of the papal claims.

bariamo
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That’s circular . You need a positive proof to affirm the beliefs of papal supremacy in the first millennium. If there truly was a papal dominance, there would have been no need for ecumenical councils, there would have been no need for patriarchs, it would have all been left for Rome to decide on. But that’s not what happened

PreemL
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There are canons about honor of privilege between the patriarchates and jurisdiction, so it is not unreasonable to expect more clarity about the relationship of the Roman See to the other bishoprics.

lhinton
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whatever happened to that one guy on this channel who used to make those curb your enthusiasm memes?

sandmantheman