Debate: Is Absolute Predestination Biblical? (with Sonny Hernandez)

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This discussion/debate occurred Monday, May 11, 2020. Kevin Thompson was informed via facebook messenger from a third party that Sonny Hernandez wanted to debate him. So contact was made, and a date was set. Sonny chose the topic of “Is Absolute Predestination Biblical?” The interaction occurred via skype.

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I really appreciated how patient Kevin was in this discussion. He kept referring back to the scripture at hand rather than engaging in philosophical debates. This was a very encouraging and uplifting video.

humanson
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Kevin. This was legendary.

Never interrupt your opponent when they're making a mistake.

Allowing him to go all the way through ephesians 1.4-5 AND 11. Brilliant.

kjvacp
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The blindness is sad. I would be interested in his take on Jeremiah 19:5: They have built also the high places of Baal, to burn their sons with fire for burnt offerings unto Baal, which I commanded not, nor spake it, neither came it into my mind:


Great job Kevin. I appreciate you doing this and sharing it.

jayd
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I felt sorry for him when you got to the "in him". We that have watched and learned were not surprised as Sonny was. May the Lord help him see the truth. Amen

BillfromtheHills
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Why is Sonny mad at you for recording on your end if he believes that God predestined you to record it before the foundation of the world??😂

emmanuelwillis
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Sonny might be over the top, but I can appreciate the consistency of his Calvinism. Sonny shows the true colors of Calvinism and why any rational person would not be a Calvinist.

rhuutdf
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Sonny struggled with Bible scripture; but ran the Calvinist ‘script’ with mere ease of effort.

lakedays
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Sonny Hernandez yet again confirmed what a bizarre variant of Christianity Calvinism actually is.

wpdaffue
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Sonny is like the Steve Anderson of Calvinisim..."if you dont believe God is Evil, ,then you cannot be saved"

andrewlineberger
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His whole argument fell apart at “In Him”. Very well done.

joeyrchapa
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"But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the will of God for themselves, not having been baptized by him."
Luke 7:30

Now, with the Calvinist lenses on:

But the Pharisees and lawyers fulfilled the will of God for themselves when they rejected the will of God for themselves, not having been baptized by him, for though God wanted them to be baptized, He did not want them to be baptized.
Luke 7:30

dustinpaulson
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In my public high school English class we did a study of the Scopes trial. My teacher, a Christian, said something I still remember 30 years later: if Bryan had limited his argumentation to just what the bible said he would not have had a problem.

This video was a very important lesson for me in not extending beyond scripture. When asked about where the sin of Adam came from you (Kevin) responded appropriately. My first instinct has always been to nail down an answer, attempting to use logic, going beyond Gods word to form a justifiable conclusion. But inevitably I would get sucked into different philosophies. This was a real eye-opener for me.
The second learning lesson for me was in your response when asked whether you believed that NOT all things were predetermined by God; at first I thought your answer was a bit of a dodge, but later on I began to understand the importance of refraining from taking a negative inference as a positive belief. Once a negative inference becomes a positive belief it can be attacked. Your strength no longer comes from the word of God but what you’ve inferred from it. This is the bane of the calvinist position, and Sonny attempted to hold you to inferences as well, but you wisely did not get led astray.

jaygee
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Legend has it, Sonny is still trying to figure out When the adoption happens.

barryjohnson
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I'll say it again, this video is a tutorial on how to answer Calvinist, I keep coming back here, God bless you Kevin

fernandopaulus
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Kevin handled this like a boss, kick back no planned questions, just let's talk Bible Mr. Philosopher. Sipping coffee. Good job. If this is your first debate/ discussion wow, love it.

tsapp
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This video is the ultimate classroom tool for your ministry. Kevin you may not have ventured down this road completely knowing that this video would be the best teaching tool a teacher could ever ask for. You can literally make a hundred videos breaking down this discussion. Kevin you did an amazing job remaining cool headed and calm. Your confidence in scripture obviously helped you remain so calm. When you first brought up Romans 8 early on in your 45 minutes, he could not sit still and his lack of confidence in scripture was obvious, although I will admit his confidence in calvinism is through the roof. Great job-keep it up! Loved it and felt sorry for him.

darinmcdaniel
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Brother hats off to you...this man believes most people who do nt hold to Calvinism is lost... I noticed at the beginning he didn’t refer to you as “brother”, just a gentleman

rangersNHL
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1:42 was a glorious moment when Sonny realized he was supporting a huge contradiction.

JesusHasRisen
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You got him good with Deuteronomy 18 Versus Lamentations 3. He quickly tried to dodge that by steering to another passage. What a shame. Great job Kevin! I appreciate your loyalty to God's word. I am thankful for your channel

NathanSotoGuitar
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(Hernandez) Calvinist NPC: "Does not compute, reload program, execute." (Kevin) Morpheus from Matrix: "What if I told you... " *Matrix begins to crack*

John.