Sam Harris debunks Jordan Peterson's postmodern Christ

Sam Harris debunks Jordan Peterson's postmodern Christ

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This is the fourth time Sam & Jordan appeared live together on stage. They were joined by Douglas Murray. This event took place at The O2 Arena in London, England on July 16th 2018 in front of 6500 people. The event was produced by Pangburn Philosophy.

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[raiderrocker]

peterson has an astonishing ability to ramble for minutes at a time without making a concise point or reaching a conclusion

[An_Arbitrary_Miscellany]

Peterson's one trick can be summarised as: impressive-sounding semantic gymnastics masquerading as intellectual discourse.

[salembuckeye]

JP is trying so hard to not admit to himself that he's an atheist.

[salembuckeye]

Jordan dominates against typical people with his machine gun oratory. Against intellects like Sam he just ends up looking silly.

[fofopho]

Peterson has mastered the art of sophistry 😅

My favorite nuance about his debates is when someone sensibly pushes back on something he says and he proceeds to redefine all of the words with new meanings. Like that time he told his interlocutors (atheists) that they were Christians because he defined Christian’s as good people with morals.

I have been a fan of Peterson, I still read his books as they come out, but he has a knack in debates for committing to logical fallacies like I’ve never seen before in someone as widely respected as an intellectual. He needs to abandon (or possibly re-read) Jung and quit turning everything into a watered down theory of Jungian archetypes - in my opinion.

[edwardmoulaison]

I'm so impressed with Harris here. Not because of his intellect, but because I think he truly understands the words coming out of Peterson's mouth. I get spun up in a web of big sexy words and can't for the life of me, interpret what he says. Sam, on the other hand, calmly listens and gets it. It's a different level, I suppose. Bless him

[Vinciini]

This exchange perfectly illustrates the difference in communicative ability between an actual intellectual (Harris) and a pseudo-intellectual (Petersen). Jordan Peterson's vernacular just sounds SO performative.

[tomalan]

I'm thinking if you took a Peterson quote and read it to Peterson he would not know where the quote came from or what it meant.

[randykrus]

Harris easily weeds through Peterson's brand of BS.

[NoNoBigWhite]

I sometimes have the feeling that Jordan Peterson doesn't actually know what he means, he is just in the habit of saying words that, to him, sound impressive together

[arcanuslosanara]

This sounds like just another case of a Canadian who emigrated to the United States to cash in on people living without health insurance.

[DewgNews]

JP is on that Michael Scott level just starting a sentence and hoping he figures out what he’s saying the more he talks 😅

[kSteedaGT]

I used to be a Peterson fan, but WOW does that man love to hear himself talk

[mikearchibald]

Peterson: Jesus is in the words we use to talk about Jesus. And look, there's a cathedral with a picture of Jesus, how do you explain that?

[_Omega_Weapon]

"How else would you explain it?"?! Big fallacy Jordy, but typical.

[grahamblack]

Peterson sounds like someone who emotionally wants to believe something but can't intellectually justify it, so has to obfuscate and perform complex double twist backflip mental gymnastics to bridge the gap between his emotions and his intellect.

[CanadAssassiN]

Jordans main M.O. is to obfuscate every single question into something so needlessly complex that you forgot why you were even talking to him in the first place

[Theslavedrivers]

The more people who call JP out on his waffle, the better ...

[ParkerAllen]

Peterson's strategy in this debate is to constantly interrupt; it certainly isn't to outthink Harris.

[stppenwolf]

Sam is just so precise and rational man, I can say for sure he's never done or say something for the grift