Narcissism and karmic relationships

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[KitKat-gwrh]

Karmic relationship = great way to punish yourself into an abusive cycle of hell.

[lilylady]

Not Karmic lesson. The lesson is actually -Learn to recognize a narcissist and RUN in the other direction.

[JC-buvl]

"Simply put...it's abuse". Dr. Ramani hit the nail right on the head.

[nicolelance]

The "lesson" IS realizing it's not love, loving yourself, and walking away.

[JohnLW]

“More harmed than lessoned”. Nicely put. I would have preferred not to have ever been exposed to narcissists as an adult, but childhood trauma finally made sense when I did, but only through your advice. I now feel protected and have insight on how to avoid these people. Thank you 🙏🏼

[glenndeacon]

Staying in a punishing narcissistic relationship just to learn from it makes about as much sense as teaching a child the danger of playing with matches by purposely burning their fingers.

[Famaliks]

I do think that a relationship with a narcissist can be a portal to a spiritual awakening if the individual does the work to address why they were attracted to the narcissist, examines their childhood wounds and does the internal work to gain their mind freedom and sovereignty. The problem I see is that people fantasize that this person is their “twin flame” and it’s a some sort of cosmic relationship ( that’s a fantasy) so they stay tied to it. My experience of 30 years absolutely was the catalyst for my own spiritual growth. But I had to level up and realize it wasn’t about them at all and do the work to detach from that person, learn boundaries and step into my own power. When you have been blown apart by them. it Is so painful, for me I had to turn to a much bigger, spiritual purpose in order to overcome it. Yes-don’t stay. You will only get mind fu*ked, but do the work away to heal. Healing inside of it is impossible.

[mysticme]

I'm a teacher in a public high school and after being in a toxic situation I'm teaching my students about toxic abuse and narcissism... It's my new purpose after my awareness about this topic... Thx for your videos 💖

[Asriel]

The one thing people fail to forget about karmic relationships is it's just that, in the spiritual community we call them karmic because it's karma playing out or a lesson we need to learn, karmic relationships are not good, what you really need to watch out for is the toxic twin flame romancing theme, twin flame connections are often overly fantasied about and treated as if it's not the toxic thing it actually is, and lots of people think there Narcissist is there twin flame, that needs to be more talked about

[physicianskitchen]

Thank you so much for this. "The twin flame" relationship was something I grew up being told is romantic and aspirational. My heart breaks for every person in that insanely toxic dynamic, it's very hard to disentangle yourself. Yes, I did grow in the aftermath of it, but NOT thanks to the abusive person. It was despite of them and thanks to generous folks like dr. Ramani who provided so much of the insight I lacked. Thank you again.

[Sarit]

I had 2 karmic relationship with 2 narcissist. They really changed my life for the better. It showed me all the triggers that I had from my childhood wounds.
My father was a narcissist and borderline and I keep up meeting those people, untill I have learned my lessons and now I'm free forever.

Only the people that have experienced this can understand... If you are smart enough and able to recognize the lesson, it will teach you a lot..

Temporary people, teach permanent lessons.

[taotaostrong]

I was raised with a Christian version of this nonsense. No! God is not testing you by abusing you. Regardless of your belief/ practice, you have the discernment and strength to leave abusive situations. You pass the “test” by setting limits, getting out, and healing yourself. Martyrs die. You are here to LIVE. ❤️

[myrna]

Yes, Dr. Ramani, I am in a Christian religion and the thought many have is, the abuser will find Christ through you (the abused). Many things wrong with this thought. I had a lot of guilt the first few months after leaving and divorcing. Thank you for doing this video. No Karma should guilt trip you for staying in an abusive relationship. Love yourself, get out.

[loribuonamici]

Perhaps the karmic lessons are more to help you become a whole person, not to linger in an abusive relationship. To learn how to recognise toxic people so you can 1) run away as quickly as possible. 2) learn to avoid narcs in future, and 3) by thoroughly understanding why a narc is a narc, and exactly how they operate, one never has to repeat that particular lesson. Once you see, you can't unsee. The lesson keeps repeating until you pass the test. Also, learn as much as you possibly can about healthy boundaries and your childhood traumas, which is essential to evolving your soul. Otherwise, you'll be stuck in one place, spinning your wheels forever, without ever progressing. It's all about healing yourself in the first place, so you can move forward, NOT stay in an abusive relationship!

[StKrane]

Many of those who stay because of „Karma“ or other beliefs end up beaten up not only emotionally but also physically. Staying in an abusive relationship can literally be a threat to one‘s life.

[peterwinzeler]

I finally learned my lesson after someone purposely showed me their narcissistic traits. I have unknowingly attracted them all my life. I finally learned about myself what it was about me that attracted them. I agree that we should be told about these situations with these types when we are young either by our parents(who probably don't know) or in school

[jodycasey]

There is no magic lesson lurking in a narcissistic relationship! Thanks for saying this today.

[indigonirvanasubliminals]

I stayed almost 5 years because I believed we were twin flames or karmics, except I was the only one learning these lessons and healing. I didn’t know I could have healed in a different way without so much pain. If you think you should get out listen to your gut, at the end of the day you decide how your life’s gonna go and you can’t wait for someone to change especially a narcissist who will never see the issue they are bringing, they will not change because they can’t take accountability, they will point to everyone but themselves, people like that don’t grow and heal they will pretend and go back to abusing you after you forgive them, it will exhaust you and you will have no choice to leave one way or another, I learned the hard way and hope someone will see this and it will click take care ❤❤

[jaredmello]

Yes!! Narcissist’s can also be very dangerous for those who believe in soulmates! The love bombing phase can seem a lot like a “soulmate” if you believe in them.

Billy Joel’s “Always a Woman” is another example of a song about a trauma bond that a lot of people mistake for a very mature love song.

[JoC-mpsf]

I’d always felt, and still do, that my ex and I are meant to be together. However, there was a point during our divorce that I was sobbing and praying to God why was He taking away my marriage. I felt an overwhelming sense of peace and heard “I didn’t take your marriage from you. I took you out of a situation that was killing you.” After that my eyes were opened to just how bad my marriage was. My ex was exhibiting a lot of narcissistic behavior. My sister had said I grew as a human, he didn’t. So I think that while my ex and I are supposed to be an eternal family, he is no longer worthy of me and our children. He and his narcissism are damaging to our spirits and Heavenly Father opened my eyes to it. Maybe someday he will learn, but I’m not holding my breath or sticking around for it. Thank you, Dr. Ramani, for helping all of us learn to spot these spirit crushers and how to avoid them.