Dune - Abomination Explained | Dune Lore

WARNING - VIDEO CONTAINS SPOILERS. ALL DUNE CANONS TAKEN AS SOURCE MATERIAL

Learn about the terror of Abomination in Frank Herbert's Dune Universe.

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0:00 - Intro
0:48 - Abomination
28:42 - Outro

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[stvbrsn]

BG playing with fire. You can’t even become a RM without opening yourself up to the very real possibility of madness, possession, death… or the little death that brings obliteration.

[gamiezion]

there's also a plot line in which leto II and ghanima goad alia in various ways to see what triggers abomination, as well as seeing first hand how abomination takes hold and expresses itself. they almost treat it like a game, balancing their need to get rid of alia with familial restraint (i.e. not going for the juggelar, instead letting alia sink down by herself). her eventual end comes at the hands of the twins as well, shortly after they draw out the baron ego for all to see. part of their motivation was to examine and decide on the subject of abomination. it's not until they themselves see the signs (and jessica confirms it) that they decide to go with the golden path.

[randomcenturion]

Sometimes I cant help but wonder, with all the terrible risks all this genetic tampering unleashed, did they just trade one horror for another when they got rid of advanced machinery?

[grantwithers]

Probably the best breakdown I've ever seen of this part of the storyline. Only thing I could add is that it seems like Frank took a lot of inspiration from psychology back back in the day (would have been fair new to people around him).

[jamesabernethy]

In terms of the movies (and mini series) we have only scratched the surface with the Dune lore. I've explored more of lore already but these presentations are great. I stopped reading reading in my early twenties but started listening to audiobooks during lockdown. I'm only beginning to explore these books more now.

[cannonfodder]

IIRC the BG don't use the water of life and the spice agony until after Leto's Peace. Until Lady Jessica the water of life was specific to fremen Reverend Mothers. The glossary specifically describes the process as using an "illuminating poison", but not specifically the water of life.

[dAdLyf]

Over my many decades pondering dune, its intricacies still intrigue me to this day.
An observation ive made about the BeneG, they really put significant effort devoting countless years and fortunes facilitating the emergence of a being that is by practical definition incapable of being controlled.

Not only were their major goals a gamble against the youse at best, they also maintained a gatekeeping position on spices further capabilities.

In later novels its made clear that males can undergo spice change the very same way BeneG do, and excluding them was potentially a mistake. Males could have bridged gaps and made the politics of the breeding program significantly easier. A male could father a great many children with similar women allowing significantly more, thousands more lifetimes added to the already diverse othwr menory. Just a few thoughts.

[joegroves]

Reading Children of Dune it was just shocking to me that no one even tried to help Alia at any point. Maybe it's because genetic memory is such a ridiculous concept and it's not clear why a memory wouldn't be static but would exist like an active independent creature somehow, but most of all the repetition of "abomination" really seemed like an attempt to disguise there being no earned reason why it was inevitable and fatal.

[Fearizthemindkiller]

I agree that this is an excellent summary discussing abomination. It really takes reading the books several times to catch all these nuances. Well done!

[luvr]

Man. did you get that wrong. A Reverend Mother surviving the spice agony gains access to her female ancestral memories, but is trained to handle them. Abomination is a fetus going through the agony, where the memories can overwhelm the unformed psyche of the unborn.

[edbouhl]

Given the Fremen constant and high exposure to spice, wouldn’t this have been a constant threat to their developing fetuses?

[alexmartin]

They fear equal screen time with the guild and mentats…

[immortaljanus]

Now I'm thinking how deeply they will be able to adapt this in the upcoming films and TV shows.

[sylvain]

but why does the reverend mother say: "abomenation' when paul atreides silences her with the voice, after he tells the emperor he will bomb the spice fields??

[elizabethdavis]

Please consider doing a video on slavery in the dune universe

[SometuyA]

More lore videos from the GOAT, just what I needed today.

[lawrencedator]

i was wondering do you have a video about the specific effects of the scattering and what good did it really do? did it cause more harm than good? what did it lead to?

[Enigma-]

How was Aliya possessed by her grandfather, when females has only access to female ancestry?

[JoshSweetvale]

The female-line and male-line genetic memory thing is interesting.
Women have X-chromosomes.
Only men have Y-chromosomes.

[drisshansfreetime]

I do have a quetion. Why does Alia have the Baron's ego as she is not male. I thought only the Kwisatz is able to access BOTH family and gender timeline.