Intel vs AMD: Strengths & Weaknesses Of Each Platform

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13th Gen vs Ryzen 7000? Which CPU is better?

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#intel #amd #cpu

00:00 - Intro
00:36 - CPU Parts List
02:53 - DDR4 Support
03:43 - Chipset Options
04:28 - iGPU
05:13 - Thunderbolt
05:42 - DDR5 Speeds
06:32 - Performance
08:25 - LGA 1700
09:11 - Intel Pricing
09:54 - Power Consumption
10:37 - Intel: AVX512
10:58 - AM5 Longevity
11:59 - All-core Workloads
12:47 - AMD + AMD
13:27 - AMD Pricing
15:09 - AMD: AVX512
15:53 - Core Counts
16:38 - Mid-range
17:52 - Connectivity
18:04 - Motherboard Pricing
18:34 - No DDR4
18:58 - Wrap-up
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Mentioning MSRP and current market price is a great idea. I don't know why they don't do it everywhere. Great job guys

Phenom
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I ended up getting the Core i5 13600K for $300 and overclocked each core by at least 300 MHz, paired it with a $150 Z690 motherboard, re-used my old RAM and overclocked it to DDR4 4000 with tightened timings to make up for some of the DDR5 performance difference. Overall this might be one of my best upgrades in terms of cost and the performance uplift vs. my previous machine.

Superior
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I replaced my Ryzen 5 5600x with the Ryzen 7 5800X3D and the upgraded gaming performance experience has been simply AMAZING! As for productivity, I don't do much besides simple internet browsing, Youtube and some simple video editing in DaVinci Resolve and the 5800X3D is just fine for those kind of tasks. Once those 7000X3D CPUs come out, I'm sure they are going to be hot sellers as well!

localbraddah
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currently planning an all AMD AM5 build. Going to be a huge upgrade to my current fx-9590 + gtx 1050 prebuilt. I've been running my current pc for about 5 years, and it's certainly starting to show its age. excited for the new generation!

pmknmash
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My guy, if you're going to co-host a video you have to contribute more than "Hmmmm, interesting. What else?"

ElonSmallPP
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I've had 5 amd computers... 4.AM4 and 1 AM5. I've enjoyed being able to easily upgrade all of them... 1 x370, 1 x470, 1 x570 1 B550 and 1 x670e. It allows me to easily pass on my old stuff to family. My daughter has two 12 core systems. She does 3d animation. My wife has an 8 core. I have the 7950x which with the right tuning it's memory is at 59 ns latency and 93 mb/sec at 6400mhz. It boosts to 5800 mhz and consumes 200 watts max. I bought it for 635 euros (including the 19% tax). I paid that for the 5900x in 2020. I live in Europe and electricity is expensive. It's just nice to know that I can drop a new or used 5th gen into the AM4 systems when ever I need to. I may even go to the 3d cache version of the 7950x if the price is right. If I was looking for a mid-range processor I'd probably look at Intel, but at the high end the 13th generation does not interest me or even the low end. You can find a relatively cheap AM5 board now. You can can find cheaper ddr5 6000 memory. I found a x670e motherboard, 32 gigs of 6000mhz ddr5 and a 7950x for 1100 euros. I could have knocked of an extra 100 if I'd gone for a b650 motherboard.

rickwhittaker
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For me, the decision making is simple. Given my modest needs, I buy the superior product positioned in the mid-range which usually always means going with the under-dog. Sure, lots of people make fun and scoff at products they view as "budget" or for "poor people" but I personally love the feeling of owning a PC (or anything else) that performs the same as one with equivalent parts from competing brands all while costing 50%+ less. I take pride in that; I paid way less for the same result.

BlueSparkzVideos
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Being able to buy a Socket AM5 board in 2025 is a big selling point for me.
I usually don't upgrade the CPU, but I have had motherboards partially fail on me (eg audio or USB stops working). Happened on my last I7 system and I had to get a second hand refurbished motherboard. I prefer buying new.
Or maybe I need PCI-E 5 slots for GPU in a couple years. I couldn't afford the motherboard with that right now, and there's no GPU's on the horizon that will need PCI-E 5. But being able to replace the MB later IF I need to is super handy, and will save having to also replace a CPU just to support a new GPU.

mockier
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I agree with Gordon (Usually do) that you should get the chip with graphics especially for trouble shooting. It is extremely useful to be able to plug a monitor into the mb with no graphics card, which lets you know whether you have a mb issue or gpu issue, it's so convenient, for very little cost. Of course the quicksync is valuable too.

SuperFredAZ
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Just finished my 13th gen i9 initial setup and burn-in on the test bench and getting it ready to put in my Lian-Li desk later today now that I have it emptied of my old 6th gen/1080 system. My old 6th gen i7 system is going on the test bench (Open WorkBench V2) in the man-cave once I have the new beast up and running in the desk. Moved from a TUF Z170 Sabertooth with i7 and a 1080 to a Maximus Z790 Hero with i9 and an Asus Strix 3080ti....loving the upgrade.

Druac
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Currently have a Ryzen 2600 in my build and chose to upgrade to a 5800x3D rather than build a DDR5 rig. All of my work and general use is done on my iMac, so the 5800x3D has been an amazing performance boost for gaming. Especially for unoptimized games like Escape from Tarkov where my FPS jumped almost 50% to 120FPS on a 3060 before I even upgraded to a RX 6800. I think I can easily squeeze another 4 years out of this rig.

jjw
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I built an AM4 based pc in 2017, nearly 6 years later im still using it though i've upgraded the ryzen 1700 to a 5600 on the same motherboard. If I was looking to buy again today I wouldn't hesitate to start an AM5 build, best long term value.

infinitephotons
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Awesome work (as always). Thanks for the video. - Article/video idea: price tracker on next-gen AM5 compatible motherboards and next-gen RAM vs. past gen. I'd love to know when it financially makes sense to jump forward with an all-new build (not an upgrade).

Tugennov
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well, I bought a b660 and a 12400 not terribly long ago, thinking I might buy a 13600k when they came out, which I then did do just recently. I did notice an impact while recording my video game on OBS, where with the 12400 I would experience some frame drops, but with the 13600k they are much more rare, instead of frequent it is once ever in a session. (low resolution, definitely not a graphics card issue). However, that is the only time I've so far noticed any difference, and were I not trying to record my videogame, it would have been a total waste, as otherwise things like chrome, any games I play, etc. already reached 88mph at maximum survive-able g's on the 12400. As a home-pc user, I think you can't possibly go wrong with either selection.

tsmspace
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I started with Ryzen 1600x then upgraded to a 8 core 3700x 3.5 years later, really happy with the performance and lower power, I missed out on getting a RTX during the 2020 on. The cost and the headaches of a all build is not in the card right now. I am not starving for computing power by no means. A lot of the computer places around me are 80% gone and that has me worried about the tech.

JS-wlgi
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Crazy that the "bottom end" intel chip still has 14 cores dude... we've come a long way in just 5 years. My first build was an i7-7700k which was the "high end" gaming chip and had a whopping 4 cores that boosted to 4.7ghz. Upgraded to the 10 core i9-7900X from Intel which OCd to 4.7ghz all core. Just upgraded from that to AM5 with the 7950X and it's been really nice.

All that just reaffirms how much I love building computers and seeing the leaps that have been made in core count/clock speeds is awesome!

.xY.mrn
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Another advantage for AMD on AM5 is the gaming performance on the Ryzen 5 and 7 being very similar to that of the flagship Ryzen 9, meaning you don't have to go for the top of the product stack if all you are interested in is the best gaming performance. Whereas Intel typically segments their stack with noticeable deltas in single core / lightly-threaded workload performance.
It seems wasteful to me, gaming on a productivity monster, when all I really need is 6 or 8 cores... but I also want the best possible gaming experience.
In the past that meant buying an i9, but now I can have that on an 7600X or 7700X.

Bixxlol
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I'm hoping they release the 7000x3d series soon. I want to see if that is competitively priced.

wesbaumguardner
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Great video, I am currently studing hardware electrical engineering and was asked to do a project on processors, not knowing much about computers from a performance level, this video helped me very much understand the difference between the two and their decades long rivalry

castrojosua
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Very insightful for a general overview, you should do this for amd vs nvidia too

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