Can You Hear The Difference!? Profiled Amps Vs Real Amps

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⏰ Timestamps ⏰
» 0:00 What We Are Doing!
» 1:35 Coming Up...
» 1:50 How It's All Set Up!
» 4:12 Capturing the Amps!
» 18:12 All Done! Time to Test!
» 21:09 Testing - Friedman Lil Sister
» 29:26 Testing - Victory V140
» 36:01 Lee & Pete's Guesses!
» 37:12 The Reveal!
» 38:32 Final Thoughts!

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Pete's statement that he made a couple of times is the actual fact. It's like having 5 of the same amp. Each one may have a slight variation, but they all sound fantastic. Each of these modelers has finally achieved that point where they are equivalents to the physical amp. This is even more true in the mix of a band. And the best thing about this is now guitarists with almost any budget constraints can finally get amazing tones. This is great for the future of the electric guitar and guitar-centric music.

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One thing to point out about TONEX: if you have an Nvidia GPU in your PC, the Advanced capture can take less than 20 minutes. The multi-hour thing only applies when no CUDA cores are available.

IAmChrisR

I love these videos were you can see Lee and Pete losing the will to live, slowly but having to persist

andrewcrawley

I appreciate you guys going through the trouble making these types of videos. they're a lot of fun to watch. thank you!

Willl_b_

Thanks guys! I always love hearing Pete's playing in the morning and I love Pete's enthusiasm when trying these out! I just got a Headrush myself and I'm so excited to see you all playing it and hearing how it stacks up against the competition. I'm gonna keep playing along and listening now :)

shawnveneziano

BTW, Captain kept asking why you would want to profile your own amp... I got a really nice 50's hand-me-down that my dad bought new, great little amp that I don't want to lug around, so I got me some tonex... very happy with it.

dlastone

Grabs popcorn for the inevitable kemper vs. quad arguments. Welcome to thunderdome.

Imsopathetic

Great video! Thanks for going to the effort to do this!

benmmurray

Thanks for taking time and consideration to creating and publishing this eye opening video.
I think the biggest challenge with doing these comparisons is that perception of volume becomes a big factor. It's been shown that if the sounds are very similar, whichever one sounds louder will seem to have better ratings from the listeners.

infnloopmusic

Thanks for putting in the effort to make this comparison.

bradswanson

From a producer perspective, owning any one of these devices and potentially having loads of high end amp profiles that sound 95% like the real thing is a no brainer. Obviously the real amps are that tiny bit better, but cost-wise it’s diminishing returns unless you stick to one amp. Plus the casual listener won’t notice the small details in difference between digital and tube.

weakattheknees_

Wow…what a great vid! Well done guys. The day of profile amps being dissed just because is over and it had for a while. This just proves it again.

DanielC__

You guys should post the profiles/captures you made. At least for the TONEX! :)

IAmChrisR

Loved that you did this, the first Tonex video was really overlooking how awesome this device is. Lee did a video where he said that the best desktop/home setup was an amp and a Torpedo Captor, but now I really think it's just a guitar and a Tonex pedal.
FYI, for me it takes less than 15min for an Advanced training capture, not 4-5h, but it depends on the computer.
In the blind test I got 3 out of 5 (real, tonex, QC), I was pretty sure about the QC as it always has more gain when capturing, real vs tonex was just luck as they were both incredibly close. I thought that the Kemper sounded pretty bad in the chug test.

Sylvain

Thanks for suffering through this process guys...lol. I knew you'd do a deep dive on Tonex Lee. If you've got a lot of pedals already and just want a variety of amazing amp tones, it's a solid option. And a plugin...cool little device. So great to be able to play a cranked Marshall stack at a whisper volume...lol.

Guitaural.

Thanks guys. That looked difficult. If I owned one of these it would be for the profiles other folks did. Or if I had a friend with a great amp I’d consider it. But I’m happy with my Helix LT. Bought it when it was considered “old” and got a floor model. It sounds great and works for what I need it for. Thanks again!

michaelsnydermusic

Great video~! Thank you so much for investing the time. It truly does show how far modeling has come. It's crazy good. Still for sitting in a room playing, I want an amp. To hop on a plane, give me the modeler~!

seanrosedotcom

Yes, like Lee said it’s so much easier to plug into an amp, but this way we get to play through a virtual Marshall JCM one day and a Fender Twin the next then a 5150 the day after. TBH if I was a professional guitarist and I’d like a Tonex in the studio and a quick and simple plug and play amp for small gigs.

RaviSingh-phuw

Great video as always guys! One point that I think you may not be considering... I bought one of these because I want to play through amps I'll never see in person or be able to afford. I have a selection of lower priced amps like a 6505+, JCM900, Krank Rev Jr and some others that I managed to find used. I'm never going to find an affordable Diezel Herbert or an SLO100 or a Bogner Shiva (and the list goes on for a while). I don't gig, I rarely even jam with friends and I have some real amps going into 4x12 cabs. I still bought a modeling tool so I could get other people's models of amps I'll never own. I haven't really heard you mention much about that aspect of the devices. fyi... I don't futz around with knobs either. I don't even use pedals!! I plug straight into the front of every amp I own. However, once I twiddle around for a few hours I can create complex cool effects heavy presets to mess with occasionally while still just plugging into the front of one thing. ...just some food for thought on a use case you may not relate to. Cheers!

halofour

I thought the toneX closeness to the amps sound (probably why it takes an age to profile) was surprisingly accurate! I think realistically tone, sound, feel are all subjective and if you like one thing or the other it’s not wrong just as long as you’re playing

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