Follow God or Oppose God, We All Wrestle

Dr. Peterson explores the idea that wrestling with the highest ideals and values is a fundamental aspect of the human journey, regardless of religious beliefs.

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[joseandres]

I was reading this passage yesterday, almost at the same time this was posted.
Jacob did not "win", as in overpowering the Angel, but he passed the test. When the Angel touches his hip, it's a clear sign he could have destroyed Jacob from the very beginning, but that was not the intention of the fight. It was to test Jacob's heart, and I think that's something we have to take as a lesson. Not letting go of God, whether the relationship we have with him is smooth or conflictive, we cannot let go of his blessing and, more importantly, His presence in our lives.

[maryj]

That episode in the Bible always stuck with me. Jacob is trembling at the idea of meeting his brother knowing he and his family might perish, and he prays alone at night, hoping God will comfort and strengthen him. What he gets is a mysterious night long fight from which he emerges limping. The Angel initiates the fight and none of them wins for a long time. The conclusion is the strike to Jacob's side. Jacob doesn't want to let him go, he wants to know his name, and the Angel responds: why do you ask my name? (As in: don't you know me? In the Bible God sends his Angels to speak for Him as Himself)
And then Jacob gets a new name. "Because you have wrestled with God, and you won."
Jacob will be a patriarch whose memory is immortal. His 12 kids will start families that will become huge tribes and the whole people of Israel. His son Joseph will be king of Egypt and save his family and the country from famine. And Jacob was just a good, simple guy with a young family trying to get by at that point. Running from his own brother after living in exile, working for his relative, for years. He fears his brother will skin him and God... just sends him one more fight. And the next day his brother is happy to see him and all is well.
Sometimes I feel God is like a good dad that if I fall, will pat me and comfort me but won't share my panic and pessimism. On the contrary he'll challenge me to stand up again. "You can do this. Come on."

I see that in Jesus's Passion. Jacob praying for his life, alone at night, always reminded me of Jesus praying in the garden before they came to arrest Him. Just the thought of what was about to happen was unspeakable fear for both. They are both challenged to keep on fighting.
Jesus also emerges from his prayer place somewhat limping, like someone who has been bleeding, but He will walk straight towards the people who are coming for Him along with the "brother", one of his best friends, Judas, who will put Him to death. Jesus will die, but just three days later His victory shows. With Him, life goes on, life goes up, life comes back, life restarts and renews. Life has a new face and a new name.
All this I felt it come true in me, in my deepest hellish experiences, and He knows I owe him my will to live and my hope and sanity, praise be to Him forever.
Thank you Dr. Peterson for what you do.

[maryhall]

"IMAGINE WHO YOU COULD BE, AND THEN AIM SINGLE MINDEDLY AT THAT".

[marybrewer]

Praying for you as you walk through this present “trial”, my brother. God be with you.

[JaketheJust]

Follow God, reject the Devil. God bless Dr. Peterson

[jesusislord]

I'm praying for Dr. Peterson I hope one day he comes into full salvation. Head knowledge is just that head knowledge and you can miss heaven by 18 inches if you don't let head knowledge become heart transformation....God Bless!!!

[snltotalrelaxation]

May you have long long life among us, Jordan Peterson...!

[somewhereisgone]

I've had extreme nightmares for most of my life. But after hearing this, I'm much more grateful for those wrestlings and opportunities to try to win, even when I fall.

[ralphbarth]

You gotta love this guy! God bless JP!

[anthonytafoya]

They can’t stop this man he is anointed

[dioneymora]

We all do better when we lift each other up, thanks for the reminder.

[AlexReynard]

I really, really like this idea. That the chosen people are not defined by place, or ethnicity, or *mindless belief, * but by struggling with moral concepts. It's like you said about, if malevolence is evil, then the opposite is play. Wrestling is the play version of fighting. It's pretty close to outright war, but the point of wrestling is to have a fight and neither side actually dies. It's to match skill and strength in a way that makes both sides better. So this means, Jordan, that God wants a partner. It means *He learns and gets better by struggling with US.*

[Ismellpopcorn]

Looking forward to hearing more about wrestling with the Divine Truth in March when you visit Atlanta. Much love from GA Dr.

[Pilotmarc]

This was the Manchester show at the O2. Looking forward to the new tour

[DylanOlegaasegram]

God bless you Jordan, god is using you in a mighty way to reach people

[flamechick]

Thy will be done. Surrender. Be still and know that I am God 🙏💗

[JuwoNicolas]

to be chosen by God is to wrestle with that which is highest _ GREAT WISDOM

[kendrascorner]

You say its not those who believe but those who wrestle that are chosen. Good point. But consider the reason for the wrestling. The wrestling was not AGAINST God, but rather FOR a blessing FROM God. This key point makes a significant difference, BECAUSE one cannot wrestle with God FOR a blessing FROM Him if one does not first BELIEVE in Him.

[TinyFord]

I wouldn’t say he was victorious, he simply didn’t lose. I think the very fact that God could simply touch him and defeat him (and he did that’s how the hip injury came about) shows just how amazing it is that God was willing to fight Jacob on Jacob’s terms rather than destroying him outright.

P.S. In English bibles in the old testament there are specific references to a specific angel whose name is always written with a capital letter A if it says “Angel”. Scholars believe this to be Jesus, and that’s why the Angel could tell Jacob he fought with God. Not ambiguious at all really. Jacob fought Jesus.

[quadhead]

In order to “wrestle” one must be in very close proximity to the one in which you are wrestling with. It’s about motive, and it’s always about motive. Jacob’s motive was to establish his identity in the Lord. Who he was, wrestled with who he longed to be. A son of God.
In most cases, the atheistic motive is not to wrestle with God but rather to be liberated from the entanglements that are required to do so.