Is Christ God? | Trinitarianism and Unitarianism vs Inspiration

Is Christ God? - Trinitarianism and Unitarianism vs Inspiration

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[jefferykaupa]

Thank you brothers. So blessed that the line of truth still burns its flames..God Bless..

[milkaurosevic]

It’s so beautifully explained, I really pray that people will open up their hearts and minds and except the truth because truth will set us free.

[heisathand]

Beautiful. Thank you. This really has been helpful

[romulosumalnap]

Yes! John 1:1 is in reference to divinity, the nature that the Son possessed.

[romulosumalnap]

Equal means, likeness, like. That's what the Son is in relation to the Father.

[romulosumalnap]

But we need to understand also that the Son's Godship in all sense was a result of his inheritance from the Father. And that's what makes his Godship equal or like the Father's.

[SeventhDayAudio]

Christ is God, but His Personality had a beginning. How is that? Christ is God manifested. His beginning was in the Days of Eternity. He came out of the Father. He is God in infinity, because He inherited an infinite nature and substance from His Father, all that is of the Father, so has Christ inherited., even the Father's Spirit. So that's why Mrs White said that the Father was first.

[grwaitemd]

The Father is above all. Ephesians 4:6. That makes the Son lower or inferior to the Father.

[edmondclement]

The Pre-Existence of Christ
1. Moses knew Christ and wrote of him. Hebrews 11:24-26; John 5:46.TDOC 43.1
2. The prophets testified of Christ. Acts 10:43; 3:18; 1 Peter 1:10, 11.TDOC 43.2
3. A new being was not brought into existence at the birth of Christ, but a change was made in the order of his being. John 1:14, ARV; Philippians 2:5-7; 2 Corinthians 8:9.TDOC 43.3
4. Christ himself recognized that he had been with the Father before he appeared in this world. John 17:5, 24.TDOC 43.4
5. Christ declared that he came down from heaven. John 6:38, 51; 3:13.TDOC 43.5
6. Christ repeatedly speaks of himself as one who came from another place to this world. John 16:28-30; 8:42; 17:8; 8:14; 8:37; 9:39; 12:46; Hebrews 10:5-7.TDOC 43.6
7. Further testimony is borne to the same fact. 1 Timothy 1:15.TDOC 43.7
8. The Son of God existed before the world was created. John 1:3; Hebrews 1:1, 2; Colossians 1:12-16; Proverbs 8:22-26.TDOC 43.8
NOTES: Christ's tremendous claim
"Nothing is more plain than that over and over again, in all sorts of ways, by implication and by direct statement, to all sorts of audiences, friends and foes, He reiterated this tremendous claim to have dwelt in the bosom of the Father long before he lay on the breast of Mary."TDOC 43.9
Co-eternal with the father
"From the days of eternity the Lord Jesus Christ was one with the Father; he was 'the image of God, ' the image of his greatness and majesty, 'the outshining of his glory.' It was to manifest this glory that he came to our world."-The Desire of Ages, 19.TDOC 43.10
Christ and creation
"It was Christ that spread the heavens, and laid the foundations of the earth. It was his hands that hung the worlds in space, and fashioned the flowers of the field.... it was he that filled the earth with beauty and the air with song. And upon all things in earth, and air, and sky, he wrote the message of the Father's love."-Id., 20.TDOC 43.11
Christ's humiliation
"Jesus might have remained at the Father's side. He might have retained the glory of heaven and the homage of the angels. But he chose to give back the scepter into the Father's hands, and to step down from the throne of the universe, that he might bring light to the benighted and life to the perishing."-Id., 23.

[claudiozanella]

Jesus HAD BEEN the almighty God. He already made ALL his work in a distant past. When his work was completed, He forsook his almighty power and became like a normal man: the Son of God. From that past the almighty God is able to be here in the form of a spirit.

[anetaangelova]

Ето ти един прекрасен цитат за ВЕЧНОТО съществуване на Христос.

"I AM means an eternal presence; the past, present, and future are alike with God. He sees the most remote events of past history, and the far distant future with as clear a vision as we do those things which are transpiring daily. We know not what is before us, and if we did, it would not contribute to our eternal welfare. God gives us an opportunity to exercise faith and trust in the great I AM. The Lord must keep the city, except the watchman labor in vain. This wonderful truth was revealed by Christ during His mission on earth. Our Saviour says, “Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.” Fifteen hundred years before Christ laid off His royal robe, His kingly crown, and left His position of honor in the heavenly courts, assumed humanity, and walked a man among the children of men, Abraham saw His day, and was glad. “Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. Then took they up stones to cast at him” because of that saying. [John 8:56-59.] 

"Christ was using the great name of God that was given to Moses to express the idea of the eternal presence. Isaiah also saw Christ, and his prophetic words are full of significance. He says, “For unto us a child is born, unto us a Son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulders: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.” [Isaiah 9:6.] Speaking through him, the Lord says, “I am the Lord thy God, the Holy One of Israel; thy Saviour: I gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee. Since thou wast precious in my sight, thou hast been honorable, and I have loved thee: Therefore I will give men for thee, and people for thy life. Fear not: for I am with thee: I will bring thy seed from the east, and gather thee from the west; I will say to the north, Give up; and to the south, Keep not back: bring my sons from far, and my daughters from the ends of the earth; even everyone that is called by my name; for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him. Bring forth the blind people that have eyes, and the deaf that have ears. Let all the nations be gathered together, and let the people be assembled: who among them can declare this, and show us former things? let them bring forth their witnesses, that they may be justified: or let them bear and say, It is truth. Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour. I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, that I am God. Yea, before the day was, I am he; and there is none that can deliver out of mine hand: I will work, and who shall let [i.e., hinder] it? ... I am the Lord, your Holy One, the Creator of Israel, your King.” [Isaiah 43:3-13, 15.

"The Pharisees were horrified at this declaration of Christ’s, “Before Abraham was,  I am.” [John 8:58.] They were beside themselves with rage that He should express such awful blasphemy, claiming to be the I AM. They would have stoned Him then and there, but the I AM blinded their eyes that they should not see Him, although He went out of the temple, passing through the very midst of them. As Jesus passed through the multitude He saw a man who had been blind from his birth, and healed him."

"The Lord must be believed and served as the great “I AM, ” and we must trust implicitly in Him." [Exodus 3:14.] Lt 119, 1895.

[mitchellc]

Hello

Jesus is the Messiah
The Son of God
The Son of David
The Son of man
The man God has chosen to be his anointed king
The man God will judge the world through
The man God raised from the dead

Jesus has a God
There is no triune god in scripture


Jesus said the Father is the only true God!

John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.

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[fredsimmons]

It's like the prodigal father telling the jealous son all that I have is yours!

[stefandjalic]

Peace be with you brothers,
What is the word you used couple of times in this video, please write it down precisely for me here, it is something like this "benetarianism"?

[anetaangelova]

Васко, като гледам как ама никак не принизявате Христос като Бог, направо ми се плаче! В крайна сметка пак да попитам, щом не сте двутарианци, но имате един истински, оригинален Бог и втори роден, неоригинален и не напълно истински Бог, колко Бога всъщност се получават?

[unveilingbibletruth]

Jesus is not equal to the father, out of Jesus mouth "the father is greater than I", "the father is greater than all". Jesus was a holy servant.(Acts 3:26)(Acts 4:27, 30)

You put more weight into what Ellan white says than what the scriptures clearly show.

[SeventhDayAudio]

He is also called the Almighty God, the Eternal Father, all the titles of the Father belong to Him, because He is God manifested.

“Jesus Christ is our heavenly Father. Jesus Christ is the Father with us. God is the Father, and there is the link of the chain brought right down to bind His children in connection with the Father.” (Ellen G. White, Ms 141, 1908, Sermon, November 15th 1908, Healdsburg, California, ‘Lessons from John 15’)

“I am instructed to say to students, In your search for knowledge, climb higher than the standard set by the world; follow where Jesus has led the way. And to teachers I would say, Beware how you sow the seeds of unbelief in human hearts and minds. Cleanse yourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit. The crowning glory of Christ’s attributes was his holiness. The angels bow before him in adoration exclaiming, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty. He is declared to be glorious in his holiness.” (Ellen G. White, Review and Herald, March 12th 1908, ‘Words to teachers and students’

“Elevate the cross of Christ. Elevate the Mediator. Lift up Jesus. In him is everything noble. Contemplate God in Christ. He is surrounded with angels, cherubim and seraphim continually behold him. Angelic voices day and night cry before him: “Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.... Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honor and power; for thou hast created all things, and 4 for thy pleasure they are and were created.” “Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honor, and glory, and blessing.” “Great and marvelous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints. Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy; for all nations shall come and worship before thee.”” (Ellen G. White, Signs of the Times, 30th December 1889, ‘What was secured by the death of Christ’)

“I wish that finite minds could see and sense the great love of the infinite God: His

great self-denial, His self-sacrifice, in assuming humanity. God humbled Himself and
became man and humbled Himself to die, and not only to die, but to die an
ignominious death. Oh, that we might see the need of humility, of walking humbly
with God and guarding ourselves on every point. I know that Satan’s work will be to
set brethren at variance. Were it not that I know the Captain of our salvation stands
at the helm to guide the gospel ship into the harbor, I should say, Let me rest in the
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grave.” (Ellen G. White, Letter 37 1887 to E. J. Waggoner and A. T Jones, February
18th 1887)

[mosessemondo]

It is only God that has no beginning. If Jesus is God then He does not have a beginning.

[fredsimmons]

Before Jesus baptism and anointing with the holy Ghost, did the Holy Ghost work or abide in the normal obedient children of God thru time!I'm talking dwelling inside as opposed to coming over!Before Pentecost!

[Sirach]

I disagree that a man cannot give his life for the world, no matter how perfect. I disagree with this, because Jesus had to become a man to redeem man. He was not a God man. He was not an angel man. He was not an archangel man. He was 100% man when he became human. The whole law covenant was built on equal such as “a life for a life, and I for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. “So likewise a human for a human.