QD-OLED vs WOLED Burn In, My Thoughts - April Q&A

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00:00 - Welcome back to Monitors Unboxed
00:32 - Does Using a Monitor Vertically Affect Performance?
04:04 - When Are We Getting 32-inch OLEDs for Gaming?
06:10 - Rtings Burn-In Test and QD-OLED vs WOLED
14:50 - Why Are sRGB Mode Settings Locked?
18:19 - What Aspects to Performance Actually Matter?
24:30 - How Dim is Too Dim?
26:36 - Phone and Laptop OLED vs Desktop Monitor OLED
29:50 - Will Screensavers Make a Resurgence?
31:57 - When Will OLEDs Be Suitable for Desktop Use?
37:20 - Outro

QD-OLED vs WOLED Burn In, My Thoughts - April Q&A

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[yosharian]

Regarding screen savers, bear in mind you can have a screen saver that's a completely black screen. So the pixels are off.

[obocecha]

I bought my Alienware QD OLED last September. I have approximately 1200 hours on it at this point with a mix of gaming and productivity. I have experienced 0 burn in and it seems to be performing exactly as the day I took it out of the box.

[deterministicj]

RTings confirmed that they are adding the Dell Alienware AW3423DWF, the Samsung Odyssey OLED G8/G85SB S34BG85, and the LG 27GR95QE-B to the longevity test going forward. We should be able to get a better idea of if this is a problem after the first few updates.

[tommyb]

Rtings has included gaming oled monitors in testing. The qdoled variety.
So in a next episode we'll have a better image of their performance.

[Mario]

If manufacturers provided 5 year burn-in warranty I would snap-buy one for my 50/50 gaming/productivity usage. Not gonna buy a $1k monitor just to see a permanent taskbar on my screen after 2 years.

[pedro]

Phone OLED is really different from monitor OLED. Not only the pixel layout are completely different, the pixels are made to be close together. Samsung tried to make a notebook with an OLED screen using the AMOLED technology, it was awful. But it is significantly more resistant to burn-in, this is why it can maintain 800 nits no problem.

[dvlaxl]

I really hope that Microsoft will update Windows 11 to support different subpixel layouts, it will be the perfect solution!

[Rave.-]

On burn in: Kind of a weird take being made here, given that they explained exactly why QDOLED was burning in faster (lack of a white subpixel). And image retention was simply worse across the board for QDOLED.

[mrkwse]

Rtings have actually now started an accelerated longevity test for the AW3423DWF and I think the equivalent Samsung and LG QD-OLED monitors - one to keep an eye on

[HeadBassVTEC]

another great one from Tim that anyone considering oled pc monitor should watch

personally I can't see myself using OLED for my monitor until I won't have to do all those burn-in prevention settings like taskbar auto-hide, super fast monitor sleep, no icons on desktop, ideally black background etc

imo at this point all those settings have bigger negative impact on my experience than the positive impact of the OLED advantages over traditional LCD panel types

[RobsRemixes]

Having just bought a Sony A95K I am quite worried about burn in because QD-OLED is capable of being much brighter in terms of nits compared to WOLEDs. However while I do game a lot I also tend to vary what I watch on screen and will try to limit on screen static HUD’s etc. I also found that the brightness is almost too high at times and honestly at min to 10 brightness out of 50 its actually more than bright enough. The picture is worth every penny and I’m blown away every time I watch a blu ray or Bravia core movie. Also to answer your question about why Sony vs LG burn in seemed to be better on LG is because Sony tvs only use the pixel refresher feature after 4 hours after the tv has been in standby, where as LG starts its pixel refresh almost instantly and this can run more cycles between uses.

[johnnypopstar]

For anyone relying on "OLED warranties" of however many years, you *really* want to be reading the small print of the warranty. It is extremely likely there'll be some parameters for monitor operation that they'll only consider the warranty valid, e.g. certain maximum number of hours, making sure the anti-burn-in features are all enabled all the time, having certain power saving features active all the time. It's incredibly unlikely to be just "we'll replace the monitor if there's any burn in after 3 years no matter what" so it's worth checking what the actual terms are.

[Steadymobbin]

You guys are monsters, keep the high quality content coming! Thanks for all you do big guy

[TheIcarus]

Hope the video testing and comparing the LG 27GR95QE firmware update comes out soon!

[eternalwanderer]

One of the biggest thing I noticed with my LG OLED TV and QD-OLED is to not actually fully powering off the TV or display. When you turn off the display and allow it to sit in sleep mode, it'll run its pixel refresher. I've had my CX for 2 years now, and QD-OLED for 3 months and have yet to manually run a refresher once, there is zero burn in and QD-OLED Panel Health is always green when I check despite using it for work everyday (mind you I set the display to auto off in 5 minutes, so when I step away for lunch, it lets the panel refresh).

[smokingsimon]

Bought my Alienware 2 days ago. 3 years Burn-in warranty is just amazing

[HDJess]

You know, there is a feature in all modern Windows editions since Windows 7, called ClearType, which does exactly that, manage subpixel rendering. And actually, the 1st choice you're asked to make is between RGB and BGR layouts. So, text clarity should be equal between RGB and BRG layouts, if you configure ClearType correctly. Also, MS Edge now natively supports ClearType.

[cheater]

The LCD monitor I'm watching you on is maybe 10 years old. It's still good as new. Guaranteed burn in after 3 years is unacceptable. Sorry.

[supremeboy]

This is first time i disagree with HU real life experience. We have many many reddit posts about QD-Oled burnin problems even without HDR in windows after 3-4 months. its a big problem unelss you never watch youtube and only play games. But thats not realistic usage.

[Leo.]

Sony Oled tv's aside from burn-in have also dead pixel issues, I own a 2019 Sony 55' Oled TV and I have now a lot of black dead pixels and burn-in, it has a LG WOLED pannel inside, also some Cx LG from that era also suffers from the same black dead pixels as Sony, at least on the stores where I have observed them. Cheers!