A strange new way to make a dowel joint- Game changer?

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[R.J._Lewis]

It is a legit joint, as long as you don't have to secure the forward and backward movement. Even without glue it would be fairly strong resisting a pull or torquing movement. As someone else said, it is essentially the same locking mechanism as a bog standard padlock. Overall, it's mostly decorative, but the stength is there.

[sorinf]

Straight face: "it was a turbulent 3 or 4 minutes!"
So refreshing! And the woodworking, too!

[deadbungeejumper]

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[Linderjw]

Lol I only click because it was your chanel

[johncowgill]

This is a legitimate joint for some applications. Some luthiers (including me) will use it to lock the neck tenon into the headblock mortise on a guitar. It produces a strong joint that will last for decades and will reduce the probability of needing a neck reset at some point in the future.

[FreekHoekstra]

So as an engineer, I would be inclined to say, *without having tried it myself,
This is a pretty strong joint. The one that John Malecki tried is not, but in this case, the joint resists pulling and torquing.
The only weakness is pulling straight up (if you were to place this joint flat on the table) but that’s actually remarkably hard to do without applying any torque whatsoever.

So honestly, this, I think it’s legitimately a decent joint. And compared to doing a mortise and tenon set up. This is probably a little quicker and easier. And yes it does look kinda cool.

[retrbits]

I suggest an overhead scale and do a scientific experiment to see what joint type reigns supreme and have multiples so that you can average your findings.

[johndufford]

Luthiers use this joint to attach a neck to the body of non-carved mandolins. They are always under the tension of the strings & yet perform perfectly.

[billj]

As a structural engineer I see joints like this sometimes used in timber framing of buildings, in other words pieces that fit together they way they are normally being stressed but have small bits to provide mechanical interlock against small loads that might act in other directions. In woodworking it probably doesn't provide much strength beyond just gluing the joint together to start with.

[supergeek]

Yeh, I clicked --- and now I feel so *USED* !

[BentusiProgenitors]

I think it's cool as a cosmetic flair!
It looks neat to me.
The problem is only when it's used in a way that suggests it's something that it's not. If I saw this in a structural joint, I'd berate it and the crafter who did it. If I saw this as you suggested in a face frame. Or some other nonstructural, highly visible area. I'd give props.

[billme]

This joint reminds me of the ball bearings that hold a padlock shackle in place.

[jsmxwll]

I use that joint in a little fixture I built. I have the cross member against a wall parallel to the ground. I have the dowels glued into it. The tail board isn't glued and is pressed into place when I need it there, and it can be pulled back out later. It's basically a more complicated and convoluted dovetail for me. That's the only use I've had for it so far.

[markchisholm]

It's legit. It's the type of mechanical fixing often used in high stress engineering applications. Many engine tappets are locked in just with a similar idea using collets.

[floridaman]

I think I may try this…but instead of round pins, cut a square mortise and do square pins on a 45 to the joint. That might be cool…definitely not quick and easy though

[AndyJSThomson]

I've used this joint when building a post and beam frame from green oak. It is used to hold floor joists in place. The end of the joist sits in a housing in a principal beam and is doweled to lock it in place. This prevents it pulling out as the green oak dries and shrinks. It pulls the whole frame tightly together and stops any spreading that might be caused by the thrust of rafters or hips. It is normally a hidden feature as floor boards would cover it up.

[TheNeilb]

This is very similar to the joint recommended by Roger Siminoff for attaching mandolin necks to the head block as an alternative to a dovetail. I believe, thanks to Roger's work, Gibson has been attaching mandolin necks this way for the past 30 or more years.

[glencrandall]

I am not an engineer or even close. So after reading all the previous replies Sure it is a real joint. I would have to say it is a pretty joint but not a practical joint. Maybe OK for a decorative application. Not click-bait though. You asked a legitimate question. Nor a waste of time. You promoted a lot of thought. Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.🙂🙂

[obiwuncanoly]

Your subtle humor provides a nice touch to your analysis of this type of joint. I agree, it's pretty to look at, but probably unnecessary from a structural standpoint, if all the surfaces are glued together. Thanks James.