Are the Heavenly Principles to blame for Khaenri'ah? (Genshin Impact 4.7 Lore, Theory and Story)

#genshinimpact #genshinlore #dainsleif #natlan

an objective look at who is responsible for what occurred in khaenriah some 503 years ago. following the dainsleif archon in 4.7 (bedtime story) seems like some more are starting to suspect that khaenriah had a larger role in the catalcysm then originally thought. idk though the lore hasent really told us though, the wording seems careful by both dain and the sibiling so as to ensure the dislike who they dislike for failing to prevent the disaster, while not really speaking as to what the disaster was, nor who caused it. anyway im like 100% im pulling for Emilie and then backing out till natlan drops in 5.0. sigewieinineitghwi is whatever shoulda been 4 star. although tbf her leaked gameplay animations looked nice. also returning to hsr in a week with the conclusion to penacony and firefly. nice change of pace it should be.

Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:35 Who is responsible?
2:10 Celestia
5:33 Khaenriah and the abyss

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[Ohsoverysleepy]

Surely not, our beloved heavenly principles would never do anything that evil

[chesedpo]

Speaking of Pierro’s “the sages think themselves to be all-knowing” could refer to the sinners in retrospect so I wonder if he wants revenge on them as well as Celestia

[ren]

god forbid our beloved heavenly principles have hobbies 🙄🙄

[holyforce]

I'm pretty sure its the elites of Khaenriah who started this mess when they broke the ley lines, making a hole out of Teyvat, causing the kingdom itself to fall through it and thus Abyss and its creatures to spill out in its place. Celestia reacted to 'plug' the hole as best as it can.

[joshuaeffendichoa]

Who dare blames our beloved Heavenly Principles!?

[spolachs]

Personally I think, the HP were well meaning when they destroyed the remains of khaenriah (and the forbidden knowledge in khaneriah) and wanted to punish those that brought chaos to teyvat, assuming the Sinners themselves were also cursed by the HP.
We hear it time and time again how horrible the cataclysm was, how many people had to sacrifice themselves to stop it and how even now, the after-effects are still felt through teyvat. So they had to use all they could to stop the cataclysm from destroying the world, the problem is that just like the Fatui and the Abyss, they dont really seem to care about "collateral damage", meaning to stop the cataclysm and punish the sinners, a lot of innocents were targeted and punished. Worse is that the HP havent tried to fix their mistakes and forgive/un-curse the innocents people of Khaenriah in 500 years.

This is kinda their Modus Operandi. for example, the only people guilty, of the original sin, remaining were Furina/Focalors, the rest were dead when the Prophecy happend. Meaning that the Prophecy would only punish innocent people while the last remaining guilty person was to be sparred.

[arlesafrosa]

Since I did the "kvarena of good and evil" quest, I always had the feeling that the cataclysm was an attempt to break the "eggshell" that The Primordial One created (to break the shackels of fate or whatever the sages of Khaenriah wanted to achieve with that).
Like, thats my best shot because why else would the presage of Apaosha appear? That's right above Khaenriah! And, if I dont remember wrong, it was some kind of portal to somewhere else because the monsters and the "filth" kept coming from there till Rukkadevata sealed the hole with the tree.
So, we dont really know who tried to do it but the only logical answer would be someone among the khaenrians because why would the heavenly principles want that? And I havent even mentioned the archons because they were only called to deal with the disaster after it happened, or that's what we've been told till now

[Fafne]

Forbidden knowledge is a hell of a drug...🤡

[davidjohnson]

3:20 Well the Eclipse dynasty is known to have existed at the VERY least 3200 years before the Cataclysm, since Guizhong's private domain has the advanced ruin golems in it. Add on however many centuries before that when the ruin golem's were invented. Let's say 3500. And then assuming that was when the Eclipse replaced the Crimson Moon dynasty then you have to add on however long the Crimson Moon dynasty lasted - say 3000 years more. Add on the original 500 years to the Cataclysm and that's Khaenri'ah founded 7000 years ago, with Sal Vindagnyr founded centuries before that again.

Note that at a minimum Khaneri'ah tech was using power cores based on Abyssal energy from about 3500 before the Cataclysm. Even the ruin golems used those cores. They just had a few Azosite elemental block batteries for emergency power. The later smaller models (with no pilots) didn't bother with those batteries. Presumably Azosite powered Crimson Moon dynasty technology. Point is, if Abyssal screwing around caused the Cataclysm, it could have happened 4000 years ago instead of 500.

[user]

I love the way he says "THE PRIMORDIAL ONE" 😭

[samidot]

Irmin shouldn't have bought space crack

[EthHawke]

I have a Crack Hypothesis; What if The True Ruler of the Abyss (The Night Mother) hacked Khaenrhi’ah’s Fate as Punishment for their Repeated Attempts to Usurp Her Authority over The Abyss, Leading to Khaenrhi’ah’s downfall? Like, if the Khaenrhi’ahns didn’t meddle with the Abyss would they still be a Functional Nation in the current time frame of the Games Story?

[crammothy]

I do not need to watch the video (I will anyway) because the answer is NO. It is those bastard sinners and king Irmin who are to blame

[weirdweeb]

Finally someone who doesn't just blame Celestia.

[Jfernandez]

Bro I fr think I just founf my favorite genshin creator. Finally someone who gets the the Heavenly Principles are the GOAT

[TheJH]

another reason why I never believed Celestia to be the initiator was actually the Nails, in Nahida's second story quest we learn that the Nails stabilize Abyssal corruption. Yes, civilizations and entire biomes and climates were destroyed from the impacts but Celestia sent them down to save Teyvat from getting destroyed by Abyssal shit in its entirety. That doesn't sound like an entity that would nuke an entire civilization by their own hands for no reason.

[AmanVasoya]

anyone else get a warning when they subscribe?

[burstlogic]

Literally everyone dogs on the heavenly principles for no reason because all the issues where either caused by humanity or by the abyss. We need a national day apologizing to the PRIMORDIAL ONE for all of this.

[slavicnick]

Nope, the glorious heavenly principles are never in the wrong

[robertmelconde]

Another quotes of zhongli why khaenriah fall "salt and betrayal"