The Lutheran Perspective on Predestination

Rev. Paul Webber explains the Lutheran perspective on predestination and the Elect.

[mulkster]

It is God’s will for everyone to be reconciled but its also God who gives, draws, and brings His sons and daughters to Him. If we are wise, we take His gifts with gladness and thankfulness. Because it is by grace we're even offered...

[pedrobatista]

Will we know why some don't hear the word at all?

[PastorJC]

Some want it...most don't. Its that simple.

[PastorJC]

I think it has to do with the eternal perspective and will of God vs. Time and Space. In eternity, God sees all things in time as truly present. In eternity, God "knows" who are his and who is not, even though his desire is to save the whole world. In order to carry out his perfect will, God "empowers" the foreknown to be saved in his perfect will, and empowers via his permissive will those who in his eternal perspective of time, reject the Gospel. When it comes to election- it is a Soteriological dance between Eternity and Time.

[beowulf.reborn]

There is not a single verse in all of Scripture that says we come into this world, dead. The Scriptures teach that we die when we sin. This is the teaching of Romans 5, and Paul explicitly says in Romans 7 that he was *alive* and then the commandment came, he sinned, and as a result he *died.*

And the reason that Scripture gives as to why some are lost, is because *_they harden their hearts._*

It's really not that difficult. As long as you don't let Augustine confuse you, or let Calvinists bully you into some vain and pretentious, false humility, and "pious" self-righteousness. Just teach what the Scriptures teach. Some people are lost because they harden their hearts. They refused to love the truth. They chose the pleasures of sin for a season. They disbelieved the truth, and delighted in wickedness. They loved riches, and the praises of men.

Do you see the common thread in all of those? It's their choice. They choose death.

They had no fear of God before their eyes.

But those who are saved, are those who on hearing the word of God, saw their own filth for what it was. They realized how utterly hopeless their situation was, and that they deserved the wrath of God for their rebellion. The things of this world grew strangely dim, in the Light of God's glory, and the goodness of God led them to repentance.

[MusikerongPilosopoor]

The “Lutheran” speaker here doesnt seem to know what Luther himself said about predestination.