How God Ruins Everything, Including Zizek's Atheism (ft. Brook Ziporyn)

Do you believe in god?
#Zizek #Atheism #God
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0:00-4:01 intro
4:01-9:51 Manichean Moralism
9:51-11:10 A Savior Syndrome
11:10-18:42 Protestant Exceptionalism
18:42-26:53 Displeasure at God
26:53-32:10 Theism vs. Atheism
32:10-36:35 Purpose/Control/Meaning
36:35-39:44 Sovereignty
39:44-46:24 4 Types of Theism and Atheism
46:24-50:46 3 Horsemen and Feuerbach
50:46-54:36 Sam Harris
54:36-1:00:22 Morality and Goodness
1:00:22-1:03:31 The Big Asymmetry
1:03:31-1:08:29 Ambiguity and Switch of Perspective
1:08:29-1:12:20 Language of Monotheism
1:12:20-1:17:27 Free Will and Determinism
1:17:27-1:22:23 Robert Sapolsky
1:22:23-1:24:50 Ziran 自然
1:24:50-1:27:55 The Oceanic
1:27:55-1:32:48 William James
1:32:48-1:33:23 Donald Trump
1:33:23-1:35:34 Back to Purpose and Meaning
1:35:34-1:37:34 Spinoza and Beatitude
1:37:34-1:43:09 Daoism and Buddhism
1:43:09-1:48:08 You 游, Playfulness and Humor
1:48:08-1:53:14 Epilogue
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Outro Music:
Carsick Cars - You Can Listen You Can Talk:
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Hans-Georg Moeller is a professor at the Philosophy and Religious Studies Department at the University of Macau, and, with Paul D'Ambrosio, author of the recently published You and Your Profile: Identity After Authenticity". Prof. Moeller is also the author of "The Moral Fool: A Case for Amorality", which focuses on morality and amorality.
(If you buy professor's book from the Columbia University Press website and use the promo code CUP20 , you should get a 20% discount.)
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Huge thanks to CTLE for lending the studio, equipment, and their generous help.

[aareyn]

This is such an underrated channel. It's incredible to have access to a conversation of this depth outside of an "official" academic or university setting. Thank you for this Dr. Moeller!

[generischgesichtslosgeneri]

Please invite Zizek and make an Interview with him in German! You can charge me anything for that.

[Senumunu]

This feels like Zizek would agree with a lot of this
and then say "but..."

[Sachie]

The dialogue was rich in content. The time stamps are appreciated, as they are useful for repeated listening.

[philliplouie]

Brook Ziporyn's discussions are always great, thanks for having him on. I'm getting his book as soon as possible.

[slickbishop]

37:07 i love how Georg always references jordan peterson as “our friend”😂

[ThomasSimmons-ux]

"Words, words, words, I eat the air promise crammed,
You can not feed capons so."
[Hamlet]...

[eliane]

12:20 Zizek argues other atheisms exist in Islam and Judaism, and that those atheisms just aren’t his focus; not that they’re invalid.

[rb]

Wow! I was just thinking, "Hmm, I haven't watched a video from Carefree Wandering for a while. I wonder what he is doing."

[LepenskiVir]

I think that Zizek's point is not to arrive at anything in itself and be done with it. I think the point is to open the abyss and take a plunge into it. Also, I think he does a very good job at not fetishizing either Christianity, Protestantism, Buddhism, Marxism, or Stalinism, etc. I think his point about the death of God the Father is still misunderstood. There is something in it...

[taylorvoss-smith]

Welcome back professor! I've missed you!

[AnalyticMinded]

I'd like to thank professor Moeller for this video. I'd been slowly drifting philosophically towards your position of amoralism, albeit mostly through self-reflection and not very methodically. After hearing you and professor Ziporyn, and now reading The Moral Fool, I feel that I can start giving structure to these intuitions of mine. Thanks again for your hard work!

[federicosalvati]

fuck yes it's back so much love for the best channel on social theory on youtube

[ghfudrsuuu]

This is funny. Watching my Catholic country be taken by American Protestantism I feel the exact opposite as Zizek.
More and more I come to consider me some sort of "secular Catholic".
Catholicism is able to have humanism without going into a berserk form of individualism
Watching my society become completely contaminated by Calvinist values is something that disgusts me.

[scottrussell]

Referring to 7:28 of the interview, isn't Zizek then talking about material results of metaphysical belief. Isn't he talking about what historian Fernandez-Armesto speaks about when he says religion changes the way humans think? I am impressed with the way Zizek (and Ziporyn in his summary) sort of omit the possibility that the soldiers and workers are doing a job for pay. Some of those computer techs may just be stuck there to pay the rent. It is a curious idealism that assigns a motive that may not be present, though it supports Zizek's contention about the transformation from god-become-human to holy spirit. A lot to think about.

[mapleandsteel]

Ironically, this life of pure purpose and the critique that it is not possible to know if one’s purpose is truly the right one, is precisely the same crisis in the Bhagavad Gita which Žižek disregards as ‘oriental despotism’

[republicanscab]

Zizek's arguments on the Book of Job of G_d f'ing up the beasts/leviathans and admitting His "reasonlessness"... as the world's 1st critique of ideology.

[iluan_]

This has been enlightening about the idea of purpose itself. Thank you.

[SarahAshelford-ou]

Great discussion. I would like to read Brook’s book. I would like to be an oceanic atheist.

[BrentDavis]

The torch of doubt and chaos—this is what the sage steers by.