Why Quiet Quitting Is Becoming More Common @TheIcedCoffeeHour

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This also excludes that a lot of companies would rather hire externally than promote internally so theres even less of a reason to work harder

thygamerguy
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Something that I noticed as a cook is the fact my employers would cut me for the day for being productive. My stuff is ready to go, extra cleaning is done, and I'm set for tomorrow. Then my boss says "go home" and as someone who's hourly and at that time meant I was being cut 1-2.5 hours daily. So my productivity was making me less money and when I even brought it up that I needed a raise to compensate for the less hours my boss said he couldn't afford it.

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The simple fact that “quiet quitting” is a thing being complained about, rather than saying “I didn’t value this employee, and so I lost him”, shows one of the major problems of work today.

brianbarber
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My last store manager literally said, "I don't believe in rewarding hard work" in a store meeting. He was somehow surprised when people quit trying.

michaelryan
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Pay minimum, get minimum. I am a black belt at avoiding unnecessary work.

godofsad
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“Employers began taking this for granted” is a really nice way to say they started abusing/taking advantage of their staff’s good work ethic or passion for the industry

samuelm
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"Quiet Quitting" is the term corporate-owned media pushes, when it should really be called "Working to agreement", "Maintaining boundaries", or (my personal favorite) "Acting your wage". There used to be an unspoken agreement that hard work was rewarded. Bonuses would be paid to teams, employees would be promoted or given raises, or even just employers would show some form of appreciation. That stopped happening, as employers took advantage of the societal "Hard work is rewarded" teachings and failed to hold up their end of the bargain. "Quiet Quitting" is just the consequences of their attempts at abuse failing.

If they're upset their employees aren't doing more, then pay them more. Make what you want done part of the agreement up front and pay them for it. Don't hire them for X, demand X+50%, and keep paying them for X. If I went to a store, picked out a gallon of milk for $3.99, paid $3.99 for it, and then went to the store manager and said "You know, a TEAM PLAYER would've thrown in a dozen eggs for free, " that manager would rightfully look at me like I'm an idiot.

TyphinHoofbun
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I learned how to run every station at work. I learned it the way Corporate wanted us to learn it, not the wrong and fast way. It got to a point where managers just had me train new employees at whatever station they needed. I realized training was outside my job description. It was managers who were supposed to be training, not other employees. It really sank in when I saw new hires getting raises while I was still entry-level pay. The only time they gave me a raise was a month before minimum wages increased. Acting like they did me a huge favor when all they did was get things adjusted a month early. So I stopped trying so hard. No matter how much effort I put in, there was no reward for doing extra. So I decided if they pay me entry-level pay, they'll get entry-level results. I stopped training new hires and did the bare minimum that was required of me.

nimarus
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Work hard for yourself and then take your skills elsewhere. They’ll kick, they’ll moan and they’ll start implying they “made” you but they’ll eventually have no choice but to just let it happen and move on to exploit the next person. That’s the new “promotion” in our modern work culture.

jcnot
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Somewhere along the line, employers stopped realizing that making their employees happy actually made them more money. The biggest kicker for me is every employer wants a 2-week notice when you're quitting so that they can have time to fill your position, but I've had a lot of jobs over the course of my life, and I don't think I've ever been given a two week notice when I've been let go from a company, that puts a lot more stress on me not being able to pay my bills than it does on you being short one person for a week. I stopped working as hard as I possibly could a long time ago, all it ever got me was extra back pain, and extra responsibility with no extra pay.

Nick-ddxg
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Got my first job a few years ago. I’m a bit of a worker bee when it comes to people and physical work, so I “worked hard, ” as people put it. I don’t think I did much, but I always offered to stay after and such to help one of my favorite managers lock up.

After a year during the holidays, I was really pushing it almost working 3 positions at once and was getting to the end of my rope. Once it slowed down, we chilled out and started talking for a bit. I was due for a promotion soon. “Am I getting a raise?” “10 cents or so, maybe.”

Put in my two weeks after, quit on Christmas. All the times I went home physically shaking because I was so worn out, for 8 an hour at that, just wasn’t worth it. I mean, the only reason I was working that hard was just because I enjoyed helping people enough to keep the pep in my step. Once the enjoyment was gone, I was running on empty. Was a good choice, was pretty much looking for an out anyways.

Sunny-uzcw
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I’m an RN who was done two years before my retirement at 63 1/2 due to an injury caused by a 100% neurologically intact patient (a horrible bite that required plastic surgery and 6 months of Cipro…assault but zero consequences for the patient), no support for same from management/administration, constant short staffing and cruelty/non-support from fellow nurses. So I “quiet quit” before the term was even widely known. Know what? My patients were cared for just as well by me and my PTSD improved greatly. By the time I retired and moved to Hawaii, I was completely detached from that toxic environment and was able to move on to the next stage of my life.

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Another thing that happens is you'll be the hardest working, most productive member on the team and the boss' cousin, neighbor, friend, whatever gets the job with no experience at all.

Some_guy_with_a_beard
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My experience is that being interested in the manager's favorite sports team was a large factor in being rewarded.

vanlepthien
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The hard workers, who were not being promoted, also started to notice that others were doing the bare minimum and being paid the same. Not only that, but the boss would go to the hard worker with extra stuff to get done because they knew the hard worker would do it. But when it came appraisal time the hard worker got a 3% raise while the bare minimum employee got a 2.5% raise. Quiet quitting was born of silent desperation

jesse
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I’ve noticed that working as hard as you can all the time is a great way to be under appreciated. You have to space it out, otherwise you’ll find yourself competing against yourself because you’ve raised the bar so high that you can’t even clear it half the time.

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Companies used to give loyalty rewards: 10 year ring, 20 year watch. They'd throw Christmas parties for the employees AND give bonuses to the executives. They gave raises to those working harder and delivering more.

Now they pay themselves, the executives, first and throw a pizza party for employees. There are no loyalty rewards, but constant complaints to Forbes, NYT, and Business Insider about a lack of worker loyalty. There are only raises at upper level management and executive positions with constant turnover at all other positions considered "acceptable loss of efficiency for cost savings".

Why would employees stick around if they're lied to and lied about at every turn? Why would they show loyalty or work harder or accept more responsibility if they know, from years of experience and even more years of watching their parents and siblings get the same treatment, that they will never be honestly rewarded for their work ethic?

mnspstudioful
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Exactly. Being loyal and not leaving the company doesn’t reward you. Taking on additional roles in your company doesn’t set you up to be promoted, someone else will be hired in to be your boss and you’ll train you boss and that process will repeat itself over and over again.

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I did this once when working for a fast food restaurant in college. I would be scheduled for a 7 or 9 hour shift, but either sent home early once dinner rush ended (usually 4 hours in), told to come back later when I showed up for my shift, or told to go home because I wasn’t needed. They didn’t even have the decency to set a proper schedule, let alone CALL ME if I wasn’t needed. They continuously wasted my time when I could have put it toward other things, like school stuff. One day I had to leave a volunteering job early to go to work (the class I was in required us to get volunteering hours as part of a grade), only to get there and be told “Oh, we don’t need you right now, go home and come back around 4 to see if we need you.”

It was that point I’d finally had enough. I never went back, and (of course) they never called to ask where I was or what happened. And yes, they did have a phone.

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I was part of a two person design team and we had soooo much work from many different departements. My boss just told us that we had to get better at „time managment“. Sure dude. We quit at the same time and they had to hire three instead of two people to replace us and they are still swamped. Yeah, „time management“ was clearly the issue….😂

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