Raw Egg Nationalist – can masculinity be rescued?

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Freddy Gray is joined by Charles Cornish-Dale, an academic and bodybuilder known for writing under the pseudonym Raw Egg Nationalist. On the podcast they discuss the recent surge in testosterone politics on the right, what's behind the fall in male testosterone levels, and why this could lead to the end of humanity...

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Masculinity is beautiful and vital. Children need fathers. The differences between women and men are important, we each have our own skills.

brocktoon
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I can’t vote for a political party that thinks man can have babies. It’s gotten absurd.

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🎯 Key points for quick navigation:

00:00 *💉 Testosterone as a Political Issue*
- Testosterone decline has become a polarized political topic.
- On the left, it’s seen as progressivism-furthering, while the right advocates for a revival of masculinity.
- Examples include fitness-focused advocacy by Republicans versus narratives of progress through lower testosterone by Democrats.
02:17 *🎬 Media Reactions and Political Symbolism*
- Conservative media, like Tucker Carlson’s documentary, faced criticism for linking testosterone decline to broader political implications.
- Events like the Republican National Convention and Democratic National Convention showcased opposing narratives of masculinity and testosterone politics.
- Visual spectacles, such as Hulk Hogan’s appearance, contrasted with initiatives like Planned Parenthood’s vasectomy van.
05:03 *🧬 Scientific Evidence of Testosterone Decline*
- Studies like the Massachusetts Male Aging Study reveal a 1% annual testosterone decline over decades.
- Similar trends observed globally, including in Finland and Israel, support the phenomenon.
- Declining male reproductive health aligns with testosterone reduction.
11:28 *🌍 Causes of Testosterone Decline*
- Multifactorial causes include environmental factors like microplastics, lifestyle changes, and diet.
- Long-term trends suggest civilization itself may influence hormonal changes.
- Industrial lifestyles diverge sharply from historical human living conditions.
15:12 *🏋️ Responses to Decline: A Return to Natural Living*
- Advocacy for aligning lifestyles with evolutionary norms, such as better diet and sleep.
- Testosterone impacts go beyond aggression, influencing pro-social behavior and honesty.
- Decline may reflect societal shifts aiming to erase gender differences, potentially favoring progressive ideals.
20:58 *🔄 Political Movements and Masculinity Revival*
- Rising interest in fitness and masculinity in political movements, especially in the U.S.
- Leaders like JD Vance and Donald Trump leverage "masculine" imagery to rally support.
- Fitness and diet discussions gain political weight as symbols of reclaiming masculinity and health.
24:23 *🔄 Interconnection Between Male and Female Health Declines*
- Declining testosterone and male reproductive health directly impact women’s health.
- Studies show harmful chemicals, like PFAS, significantly reduce women's reproductive success.
- Gender differences are vital for societal stability, and erasing them risks undermining civilization.
29:02 *💊 Political and Economic Challenges of Health Reform*
- RFK Jr.’s agenda to improve national health faces entrenched corporate and governmental opposition.
- The U.S. food system’s subsidies and regulatory corruption perpetuate health crises.
- Overhauling the system involves fighting powerful agribusiness and pharmaceutical lobbies.
33:15 *📉 Testosterone Politics and Societal Collapse*
- Testosterone decline reflects broader societal challenges and frustrations with liberal democracy.
- Fukuyama’s critique highlights liberalism's inability to satisfy human desires for distinction and meaning.
- Reactions against this “spiritual boredom” have included radical movements like ISIS.
38:34 *✝️ Religion and Masculinity Revival*
- Testosterone politics is often tied to a yearning for past religious or cultural ideals.
- Debates arise between advocating for Christian revival versus returning to pre-Christian virtues.
- Christianity’s dual legacy complicates its role in masculine resurgence, blending asceticism and heroism.
43:31 *🏋️ Physical Fitness and Ideological Critiques*
- The focus on physical fitness in testosterone politics invites criticism linking it to fascistic ideals.
- Historical parallels, such as the fitness campaigns of JFK, challenge these assumptions.
- Advocates argue that promoting health need not align with authoritarian ideologies.
48:18 *🩺 Health as a Potential Unifying Political Issue*
- RFK Jr.’s health initiative aims to unite people across political divides.
- Challenges remain in overcoming partisanship, corporate interests, and entrenched systemic issues.
- RFK’s family legacy ties health reform to a broader political narrative.
49:13 *🏛️ Roman Analogies and Trumpism*
- Trump is portrayed as a Caesar-like figure, symbolizing a threat to the U.S. Republic.
- Political rhetoric often invokes historical parallels, including staged performances depicting Trump as Caesar.
- Trump’s charismatic appeal and personal style evoke discussions about leadership and authoritarian traits.
51:31 *👑 Trump’s Leadership Style and Popular Appeal*
- Trump’s rallies and dramatic gestures emphasize his connection with his base, showcasing “testosterone politics.”
- His charisma fosters loyalty beyond traditional party lines, transforming the Republican Party into a populist movement.
- Despite his larger-than-life image, Trump’s policies align more with historical Democratic positions, complicating the Caesar analogy.
54:18 *📜 The Future of Leadership in the U.S.*
- Trump may foreshadow a true Caesar-like leader in the future but lacks some defining traits of such a figure.
- The rise of a transformative leader would likely emerge from dissatisfaction with current systems and policies.
- Trump’s movement sets the stage for more radical leadership aligned with populist discontent.

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stevealba
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Great that you’ve had REN on, he’s a very smart knowledgeable guy. His knowledge on history is great too, as expected given his academic background.

Prometheus
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Real women want a real masculine man. Real masculinity IS NOT TOXIC !!!

karenkline
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Great interview, raw egg nationalist is great 🎉

CultOfGaia
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My testosterone level is very low despite exercise, daily walks and eating 4 eggs daily.

waltright
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I’m a straight woman who has always had high testosterone levels. When younger I loathed birth control pills even the lowers estrogen ones . They acted like a horrible narcotic on me . Making me labilie, sad, inactive, depressive, tho my personality is huuuuge and not for everyone, I was successful in a mostly male dominated career . A ‘ big mouth’ a ‘ witch ‘ ‘b* tch’, but it’s hpw my body is built . I’m also hyper feminine about many many things and love men. I like this interview . Even as a feminist and liberal . Sorta kinda, ‘ thynos ‘ was a great thing to bring up, tho Greece was a homosexual culture as Rome.

courtneymichelle
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I love this guy he's super knowledgeable and he's been on the Harrison Smith show on info wars all the time. He makes many logical and rational points.

bennettchandlerii
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Really good to see you getting REN on discussing such an important issue. Dr Carole Hooven is another important voice in this area who has faced enormous pushback for her work. Improving mens health is a net benefit for everybody. I'm glad to see you highlighting it.

marsh
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Didn't expect him to be so zesty with it

B-lj
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Never thought i would see the day when "Soy Central" at the Spectator would have REN on
things must be changing.

markhayward
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Taking personal responsibility for education and health and staying away from the huge State projects around these is surely the opposite of fascism?

cyberiad
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This guy looks like Paul Scheer, I can't unsee it.

BaiHuJ
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Go to the gym. Do deadlifts. Eat eggs. Vote right.

zeno
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The Spectator has on REN?
Maybe there's hope for you yet.

johndaniels
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Try the alternate Greek word, euthymia or ‘ good thymos’, where the soul lives calmly and steadily, being disturbed by no fear . Superstitions or ‘ other [destructive ]passions ‘

courtneymichelle
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Great choice of guest, thanks for the upload!

LondonReps
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30:00 I deduced, via one of my very-sane insights, that what our population is doing subconsciously, is sedating ourselves.
With foods, with all kinds of stuff.

Because, although everyone's always saying/pretending, or convincing ourselves here, that our country has problems, the truth is that things have never been easier, our country has never been more self-sufficient and prosperous by historical standards.
Compared to any place that has ever existed.

Everything's technologically advanced, and mostly works. Very well.
Since the shale revolution (which was under-reported) we've reached a whole other plateau-height, of self-sufficiency and capability.

Whatever you hear about other countries, the fact is that most other places in the world have never been weaker, especially by comparison.
It's probably better that our country and populace, keep themselves cool, calm and collected.

Sure, it would definitely take a minute to build back our battleship fleet.
But we're a very big, natural predator.
And if our appetite were healthier, every other country in the world might start to look like lunch 😏

Jules-Is-a-Guy
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Being a man is nothing to do with the gym or test, which too much is as dangerous as too little. Enough with the dumbing down of men to acting like cavemen.

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