HAVE THE GIFTS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT CEASED?

#EXPOSINGCESSATIONISM #CESSATIONISM #CONTINUATIONISM #HOLYSPIRITGIFTS

TODAY, WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT CESSATIONISM AND CONTINUATIONISM & WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE. WE WILL BE EXPOSING THE DOCTRINE OF CESSATIONISM FROM A BIBLICAL AND CONVERSTATIONAL PERSPECTIVE. HAVE THE GIFTS CEASED? HAS THE HOLY SPIRIT STOPPED MANIFESTING THE GIFTS OF 1 CORINTHIANS 12? NOT AT ALL!

WE WILL TALK ABOUT
1. WHAT IS CESSATIONISM?
2. WHAT IS CONTINUATIONISM?
3. "SCRIPTURES" THAT DEFEND CESSATIONISM
4. SCRIPTURES THAT DEFEND CONTINUATIONISM
5. HISTORICAL EVIDENCE FOR THE GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT
6. BIBLICAL EVIDENCE FOR THE GIFTS
7. PERSONAL TESTIMONIES
8. PRAYER

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[rickardnolan]

I wish I had time to share my whole testimony but I lived in sin as a believer for a long time because I never read. I thought that was for pastors because I looked at what believers in my family were like.
My true relationship with God began about 19 year after saying the prayer and two years after baptism. Can you imagine not being told that you need to be baptized? The Lord told me late last year in my sleep “Their baptized for preparation for service. I hate the old sanctuary.” Speaking about sinners.
The highway where I live was shut down and I had to drive through the city to get to school for about a year and I kept seeing homeless people, girls who dressed to seduce men, prostitutes, gang bangers, drug dealers and children I knew were going to grow up to be the same because non of those adults knew how to love them. And I suddenly I thought “I’m a Christian. I should be helping people.” I started doing little things like trying to help people who’s vehicles were broke down, asking people who were walking or at the bus stop if they needed a ride. I had a lot of people look at me like I was a freak but I wasn’t thinking anything bad. I genuinely wanted to help them.
That’s when I started having dreams of the future, and the Lord started speaking to me in my sleep. Eventually I literally felt His love fill my heart in a dream as I looked into the eyes of my first love.
The greatest things I’ve experienced have been miracles as I wept for people who were hurt because they were struggling in relationships in their lives.
I think I’ve shared this testimony but I had a friend I worked with who’s wife started an affair shortly before he was fired but our boss gave him his job back a few months later and one day we were paired up to go install fiber optic cable. I asked him how things were going with his wife and he explained as we drove to his apartment to get some things he forgot. He told me how they were trying to work things out but he knew she thought about the other guy. My friend was extremely over weight and his wife was attractive to a lot of men but he really cared about her. He finished by saying that it was hard because she wouldn’t even hug him or kiss him or tell him she loved him and I turned my head and looked out the window as tears rolled down my face while I pleaded with the Lord to bless him with a loving wife.
He came back out about 10 minutes later with a huge smile on his face and I asked him why he was so happy and he said that his wife walked up to him out of nowhere and hugged him, kissed him and told him she loved him.
God loves people and wants to bind up their broken hearts and show that He truly is Love and True love is Holy. You can’t separate True Love from Holiness.
The second greatest command is to love your neighbor as yourself.
The Lord reminded me of that last week in my sleep. A lot of Christians are taught everything but love your neighbor as yourself.
It doesn’t matter if you sin. God wants you to be happy. Desire the gifts and do of these things that don’t have anything to do with love.
God moved Moses to love His people and his brothers and sisters who were bound in sin but to sin and the sin was simply being in a place where they weren’t worshiping God by doing what He said. The prophets loved God’s people. Jesus’s miraculous ministry started when He was free to go and love people without restrictions.
I gave away clothes, money, and things. I was telling Jesus and people I was sorry, I repent and I love you.
Luke 16:10 He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much.
11 If ye therefore have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches.
How many Americans do you think even pay tithe and used earthly riches to bless God’s kingdom or been a good employee even to harsh earthly bosses? Think about Daniel and king Nebuchadnezzar. Daniel saw God as His boss above king Nebuchadnezzar and as long as he didn’t sin against God he wasn’t responsible for the evil of another man. He just loved him.
God wants out hearts circumcised to Him. He is love, not law but love needs no law to say “that’s another man’s wife” “They’re hurt. Pray for them” “Don’t break the speed limit because you’ll teach people to do the same and anger people.” It’s just love. If Christians aren’t taught to abide in that place then they get confused and hurt the Lord in hurting each other and unbelievers and you find Christians who don’t want Jesus because they’ve been hurt by people who didn’t know how to love like Christ but it wasn’t Christ hurting them. It was believers who hadn’t learned to listen to the Lord. It’s not a complicated list of things to do. But it can be complicated when you only have $20 for the week and need gas and you see someone who needs it to eat and the Lord asks you “Do you really trust me?” And you remember He’s the God who fed Israel with manna and fed Elijah by an Angel and by ravens but then chose to let a poor woman feed him so He could bless her. He’s a God of miracles and we want the miracles but put off sacrificial co-laboring and suffering with the commander of the army.
When Israel was in the wilderness sleeping in the dirt God was there in the dirt, in a tent with them. He said since you chose to be with me where I am I chose to be with you where you are.
So many of their problems with God weren’t because they had needs. It was because of the way they treated Him in their requests to have their needs fulfilled.
He destroyed a nation to free them. All they had to do is go to God and humbly say “Lord, give us some water please” “Lord, give us this please” Lord, we have a need.”
Look how many requests Abraham made for Sodom and Gomorrah. He just didn’t accuse the Lord of being evil.
Intimacy. I know you’re there and I want to know you so since I have this book that tells me what you like I’m going to flirt with you and go out and do something you like (a bouquet of flowers) I’m going to pray for people I see as I drive places (a chocolate kiss)and bless and help your people with money, energy and time ( hugs, kisses, dancing and singing). He said “If you seek me you’ll find me.” And all I have to do is believe my offering is welcome because He called me and I’m just responding to His call by calling Him back and saying “Really! You want to be with me! I accept your proposal!” And then run and show and tell everyone how you’re engaged with the Lord in blessing and making a family.

[EdithGonzalez-xysv]

Crist can you please pray for me I been hearing like demons here in my room please Crist. Please and thank you! God Bless 🙏🏼

[mickkruger]

The gifts haven’t ceased but many in the pulpit operate in the flesh…and then they hurt people. I was once told God is healing you (physically)…and nope…no healing here.

[rickardnolan]

The reason they get that seeing Him face to face is because they get too Spiritual and don’t consider that there is a time when you will see Him physically face to face.
It’s like in John 14:9 where Jesus said if anyone has seen me he has seen the Father speaking about His faith, hope, love, Character and so on. Like after I was baptized in the Holy Spirit and fire I could literally feel Him in my heart so powerfully doing loving things that would make me cry and I could see Him; I could see with my heart the things He wanted me to do and hear what He wanted me to say from His heart because He put it in me and He gave me this picture of Moses sitting in the tent with God and that my body is a tent for my Spirit and I could feel how I was sitting with God in my heart talking to Him face to face but the perfect was not yet. That journey to the promised land was in effect but not finished. I think a lot of older believers get thoughts like that and get it mixed up and hear teaching that kills faith to receive and people are afraid to speak against leaders. I heard a pastor stand in the pulpit and bark that the gifts are not in effect and it made me want to leave. Not because I was afraid but God doesn’t bully people like that. If He was going to bully people it would be about sin not obeying Him and asking for obeying John 14:13. Then people say that was for the Apostles and go on with these arguments and come to a point where you cut the church off from the Lord Spiritually because all we can do is read the truth and do our best to produce fruit but the first fruits but James 1:18 says they were the a kind of first fruits and 1 Corinthians 15:20 calls Christ the first fruits so your seeds should produce the life of Christ in someone else.
I had a good Nazarite tell me that they don’t like to get into healing and the gifts too much because people will take advantage of Jesus and make it about the gifts and that can happen but when Jesus was here He didn’t live in fear that people would choose the gifts over the Father or Brother they came from. He just loved people and gave everything to move their hearts to receive His love and Him in their hearts. It’s like when the Bible says do not fear and people get all kinds of ideas of what that means but to me it’s always meant above all do not fear loving people in word or deed because they might kill you or reject you.
Jesus was being rejected as a friend long before they beat Him and put Him on a cross. Imagine that pain. Coming to the people of God and loving them so much you’re going to give your life to save them and many take from you and never think “He is such a loving man. I just want to be with Him and be part of what He’s doing even if all I can help with is two mites.” And Jesus looks smiling at the card table and sees a woman going all in and betting her life on Him.
The devil would be happy if all we did was read the Bible and have no power and fight and argue with each other because God’s love was not filling our hearts because then we would make the Lord look like a liar and no one would seek Him.
I think that’s partly what’s happened with Christians not going back to church. Prophecies about a President and failed hope in something that wasn’t going to happen.
The Lord showed me and I told people in 2019 that I saw, in a dream, President Trump and his son get into fighter jets and take off and fly out over a coastline. I heard people yelling calling him evil and a pervert and cursing him and after they got over the sea I saw him and his son nose dive into the sea and their jets exploded and they swam to the surface.
Look how his presidency ended. It was an explosion. Revelation 17:15 The waters you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages.
The waters were peoples. I’m almost positive the tsunami waves people see in dreams are people raging because of an explosive event and some are hiding and some are riding the waves and some are staying calm.

[chuckb]

Hi Pastor Chris, is this the book you were talking about on the stream? Eusebius' Ecclesiastical History?