What is Molinism? What is a Molinist? - GotQuestions.org Podcast Episode 18, Part 1

What is Molinism? What is a Molinist? What is middle knowledge? How does Molinism explain the relationship of God's sovereignty and human responsibility/free will? Is there anything in the Bible that supports the Molinist viewpoint?

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[monthc]

I'm here watching because I also "thought of" Molinism, and then learned there's already a name for it lol

I too have an engineering background.

[tazzedout]

The debate on Calvinism VS Molinism (James White VS William Lane Craig) brought me here,

[firebynight]

For the "if God is placing people in situations he knows will cause them to act a certain way" objection, I agree that foreknowledge isn't causal but I would also add that it is impossible for God to not place people in situations where He knows what they will do. God knows the end from the beginning. If He creates a world AT ALL He will be placing people in situations where He already knows what they will do. So, then the question is does He do this in such a way that His purposes are accomplished? And scripture would clearly indicate that He does.

[MegaAce]

I believe GOD is outside of time, and we are inside time. We are stuck on a linear path l, not knowing the future! GOD see time from above, from beginning to end, if there's even an end!

I believe there is an end to time itself. When that occurs, GOD will pull us out of time and place us with-in HIS realm, where there is no time but a pure state of infinite Praise HIS Name

[SSNBN]

It's easy to understand how God knows what our free will choices will be. He's in eternity outside of our time confined space. That's how He knows the end from the beginning. It's also how Jesus appears in person, or by voice, throughout the Old Testament (angel of the LORD), though being born in our timeline, once ascended, He is in eternity with access to all of our human timeline.

Isaiah 46:9-10 KJV
... *_for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, _*

[10] *_Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, _* saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

[NateDogtheSurfer]

It's easy to answer this question-- Because God is the origin and source of all that is known. The only contradiction is saying God has 100% rule over all things err... except for this one tiny thing that just so happens to exist apart and independent of His active purpose, active sustaining, active causation, and active desires (his freewill). There has never been nor ever will be a universe where that is actually the case. People can dream up some hypothetical reality in their minds, but it will always be that, a hypothetical that does not actually exist. At the end of the day, Molinism does not really exist to defend the sovereignty of God as it claims it does, but to protect the sacred cow of man's (so-called) freewill.

[MegaAce]

Once GOD creates time to unfold the way it does and places HIS created man and woman in it, is we are now bound to operate with -in the confines of the time HE just created? However he is not bound by time, space or matter.

[adrianpasillas]

So... your understanding counters Isaiah 46:10...

[troykeith]

calvinism light or hyper arminianism. This seems like they're really trying wedge in some philosophy so they could feel comfortable without offending either determinists or provisionists.

[geraldreineke]

Molinism completely moves away from the true gospel, it does not depend on the man who wills, but on God who HAS THE MERCY Romans 9 v 16, Johns gospel 1 v 13 who were BORN not of blood nor of the will of the flesh NOR OF THE WILLOF MAN BUTOF GOD to believe anything else IS TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE GOSPELOF CHRIST

[jeremynethercutt]

It’s making a God of their own understanding to their liking what they will accept .
It’s not biblical:(

[fanghur]

How is this not just determinism in disguise?

[onlyonetruth]

It's so heartbreaking that so called Christians believe this garbage, my chest hurts listening, I have turn it off