Defending Provisionism

Dr. Flowers takes some time on Christmas Eve to defend Provisionism from two Calvinists who recently brought a critique.

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[ironlion]

Seriously, Leighton, I think your interlocutors don’t take the time to listen to what you’ve repeatedly said in hundreds of hours over many years of broadcasting.
I’m so thankful for your ministry and patience in this work. So many questions have been answered for me through this podcast. Thank you. Merry Christmas

[patrickg.]

Dr. Flowers, I applaud you! Maybe I've missed it in other videos but the last couple of videos I've heard "false doctrine" & "false teaching." I think you've been more reserved in the past years to throw those specific words out there. Again, I want to applaud you for boldly saying those particular words! Calvinists and non-Calvinists need to hear that truth. In love of course, but it takes the discussion to another level, more serious, more direct, biblical!
Thank you sir for lovingly & boldly spreading the truth about Calvinism.
Calvinism IS NOT THE GOSPEL.

[chrisstevens]

What I do now is I like every video I am about to watch. Doing this will help
Dr. Flowers and spread the good news.
Hallelujah!

[HealingWord_Psalm-]

I’ve always considered myself Wesleyan/Arminian. But the way I’ve always explained “prevenient grace” is what Leighton flowers calls provisionism. The Word of God, the conviction of the conscience, the testimony of God’s power in creation, Spirit empowered evangelism and mission, visions and dreams are all examples of grace that “prevenes” and enables sinners to respond to God in repentance and faith.

[peterfox]

Yes, the Russian nesting dolls comparison is apt. Mike Winger also puts it nicely -- all the points of TULIP basically are 5 different ways of expressing the same idea.

[charlessoper]

L.eighteen is a man for “such a time as this”, and praise The Lord for it, and he is much smarter and more gracious than his opponents!

[TheProvisionistPerspective]

1:08:35 Blast it! You beat us to reviewing this! 😅 Since we were given a dishonourable mention, we wanted to go over it. Btw, we both hold to PSA. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
PS Merry Christmas!!

[peterfox]

Why do these guys and other Calvinists continue to believe "free will" means "the ability to actualize whatever one wills". It's asinine.

[DouglasCouto]

Your patience with these guys, Dr. Flowers, is admirable. I would've been yelling at them in every response broadcast and calling them to meet me at the metaphorical debate "flag pole" after class to see if they'll say any of this stuff to my face! 😅

[joefrescoln]

One usually doesn't have to listen very long before the Calvinist begins to refute their own positions: 1:12:32. His critique of the P.R.O.V.I.D.E. acrostic is that it is a refutation (negation) of Calvinism. It's ironic that (to my knowledge) it's literally how his own acrostic came into being. The T.U.L.I.P acrostic was a point by point refutation (negation) of the points of the Remonstrance. Pot meet your friend, the kettle.

[robertrodrigues]

A very Provisionist Merry CHRISTmas to all, and even to some

[JasonJrake]

It's refreshing to see Leighton let a little righteous anger slip into his demeanor in response to these straw man attacks upon his views.

[mattd]

These Calvinists are creating a strawman to burn it down.

Edit: I made this comment before hearing Leighton say the same around the 30 minutes mark.

[troydunn]

So did Christ die only for Adams sin if it's his sin we are guilty of? I believe Christ died for the sins of the whole world.

[kimsteel]

"....They (Calvinists) just haven't done their homework...." A nice, respectful, and gentlemanly way of saying that *they're lazy and willfully ignorant and Jesus juking their laziness and willful ignorance*, and that's exactly what they are and are doing.... 😳😳😬😬 Keep on dropping those truth bombs, Doc! 👏👏👏👍👍👍

[robertrodrigues]

I am a PROVISIONIST but do not believe in the heresy of ORIGINAL SIN. We only become sinners when we sin, and we sin because we inherited a sinful nature from Adam . We are not held guilty for Adam's sin, but for our own when we sin! Psalm 51:5 cannot be used to teach original sin. Grammatically it does not! It has been very poorly translated in 99.99 % of translations [translated by Calvinists] It says "My mother was a sinner during my conception" The SUBJECT is MOTHER in the verse.

[francesstacy]

I render this a gift from Leighton. Thank you!

[toomanymarys]

Your critics are deliberately confusing original sin and original GUILT AND misrepresenting original sin.

[toomanymarys]

Geez. These men are damning every severely mentally disabled person as well as every infant.

[KISStheSON...]

Collin: "Billions of people have lived and died having never heard that only way to be saved gospel."

Titus 2:11
“For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, ”

I don't think God made a world too big that He can't be found and believed on through WISDOM.

Proverbs 2:6
“For the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.”

Proverbs 4:7
“Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.”

Proverbs 24:3
“Through wisdom is an house builded; and by understanding it is established:”

Ignorance is the lack of knowledge and God no longer "winks" at ignorance because He GAVE us the wisdom that we can GET to be made unto salvation. If you have not been made wise unto salvation that is because you refuse to GET wisdom, therefore you are without faith because it takes wisdom to produce faith.

Proverbs 4
5 GET wisdom, get understanding: forget it not; neither decline from the words of my mouth.
6 Forsake her not, and she shall preserve thee: love her, and she shall keep thee.
7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore GETE wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.
8 Exalt her, and she shall promote thee: she shall bring thee to honour, when thou dost EMBRACE her.

God gave us HER so that we can get faith in HIM!

Proverbs 3:18
“She is a tree of life to them that LAY HOLD upon her: and happy is every one that RETAINETHher.”

Colossians 4:5
“Walk in wisdom toward them that are without, redeeming the time.”