Should Christians Obey the Old Testament Laws?

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if that was true in the way he meant it there would be no israelite children left

rippedgoat
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Please, this passage is NOT about someone's child being "rude" or even "drinking a little too much."
It is about ELDER ABUSE.
And, as IP said, the laws were not meant to be read exactly the way we do today.
Take "Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain, " for example. It is not about an ox, it means even animals (therefore everyone) have the right the get something in return for their work. Silver, sheep, gold, whatever.
Can you imagine someone going: "I told my son to be home by 12:00, he got home at 3:00, so you know....".

beatrizn.
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To get stoned you have to do something extremely horrid that completely dishonors your family. Like murder, big counts of theft or even the r.

itssslashhere
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One law I do obey is, "Do not do anything that would endanger your neighbor's life." That one covers a multitude of actions and temptations.

michaelogrady
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So basically the Old Testament isn't recommending the punishments be enforced, but rather the punishments themselves show us the level of severity the corresponding sin has in the eyes of God.

BEERFEST
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Point three: the verse is mis quoted. It does not say child, it indicates they are repeatedly drunk and unruley, and imply the elders have done everything they can to marketer opportunity for change.

karlmordaunt
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That explains a lot, Just like King David didn't get the Torah prescribed punishment of Adultery!

smz
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Also, you wanna include this. Child is not a 5 year old but a fully functioning adult and has committed some grave crime. Not just petty crimes.

gabriel.notfound
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Pray for this man and others like him.

misseli
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Another thing is that that passage talks about late teens to adults and not children as in kids, because it also says "if they get drunk" (something like that)

jeromesassoe
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wait we were supposed to stop doing that? uh…

Jexzz
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Plus the punishment of Sin is death. If you disobey your parents it is a sin. Thankfully Jesus took our place and died in our place so we don’t have to die for the sins we commit.

Mattskilletguy
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✝️🙏🏻👑❤️ Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit, as it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end. Hallelujah. Amen.

SacredReason
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People forget the Torah is a code of civil law, moral law, and ceremonial law. We literally see in the Torah that men would be put on trial by the elders to determine crimes. That is civil law, it can change. Ceremonial laws change with the covenants, and moral law is eternal.

WaterMelon-Cat
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Respond to Dan's recent video accusing Christians of being arbitrary regarding this topic

Ckema
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If you read the passge fully it talks about the child being drunk and something else its wasnt talking about when a child is acting like a brat it's a grown man dishourning and disgracing hes parents

isrealgabriel
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More important fact is that ancient law codes in general tended to give the death penalty for every offense. But no one took the penalty literally.

A well known anecdote is about Draco, the author of the infamous “Draconian Code” which is the earliest known code for Athens. This code gives the death penalty for pretty much everything including the ancient equivalent of littering and jaywalking. This is why the word “draconian” means “harsh or severe”

According to legend Draco justified his code by saying “ I think minor offenses are worthy of death and I can’t think of a worse penalty for major offenses”
But there is no evidence that these penalties were ever carried out.

Michael-bknz
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>pronouns in bio dude trying to talk down religion

Uebagi
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Just watched the Ruslan kd podcast vid w ip, and he explained this same thing there. Keep it up ip

JonathanKuruvilla
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Correct me if I’m wrong here, but doesn’t the verse following say, “He is a drunkard and a slugger?” I think it’s safe to say that we’re not talking literal kids.

Also, if I remember correctly, this verse was talking about bestowing actual curses on your parents, not just your casual teen rebellion.

paulnash