God’s word, flat-earth, and inerrancy; What is the Bible allowed to get wrong? Ep. 141

What do we do when the Bible says something that is simply factually incorrect? In this episode, Dave explores one example and looks at how different people (Latter-day Saints or otherwise) might approach those scenarios.

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[jonathancolon]

I believe the Bible 100% and not a human that's a sinner. God is forever and would not get it "wrong" because of time. He has no time. Holy Spirit show this man the truth 🙏

[doctorevil]

Except the Bible clearly says the earth was created first and then lights inside the firmament one to rule the day the other to rule the night. Nowhere in the Bible does it say the sun was created first and the earth second to orbit the sun.

[matrixanimations]

Keep in mind that most scientists also say the earth is millions of years old and we evolved from apes

[stephenwilder]

Globe 🌎 in the background tells me everything I need to know about this video

[sonofchrist]

In genesis it clearly says God said and God can’t lie

[chickenwhisperer]

Professing themselves to be wise they became fools

[jorgesantibanez]

People are starting to wake up thank the Lord about the truth

[derekseube]

Then the Lord spoke to Job out of the storm. He said:

2 “Who is this that obscures my plans
with words without knowledge?
3 Brace yourself like a man;
I will question you,
and you shall answer me.
4 “Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation?
Tell me, if you understand.
5 Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know!
Who stretched a measuring line across it?
6 On what were its footings set,
or who laid its cornerstone—
7 while the morning stars sang together
and all the angels[a] shouted for joy?
8 “Who shut up the sea behind doors
when it burst forth from the womb,
9 when I made the clouds its garment
and wrapped it in thick darkness,
10 when I fixed limits for it
and set its doors and bars in place,
11 when I said, ‘This far you may come and no farther;
here is where your proud waves halt’?
12 “Have you ever given orders to the morning,
or shown the dawn its place,
13 that it might take the earth by the edges
and shake the wicked out of it?
14 The earth takes shape like clay under a seal;
its features stand out like those of a garment.
15 The wicked are denied their light,
and their upraised arm is broken.
16 “Have you journeyed to the springs of the sea
or walked in the recesses of the deep?
17 Have the gates of death been shown to you?
Have you seen the gates of the deepest darkness?
18 Have you comprehended the vast expanses of the earth?
Tell me, if you know all this.
19 “What is the way to the abode of light?
And where does darkness reside?
20 Can you take them to their places?
Do you know the paths to their dwellings?
21 Surely you know, for you were already born!
You have lived so many years!
22 “Have you entered the storehouses of the snow
or seen the storehouses of the hail,
23 which I reserve for times of trouble,
for days of war and battle?
24 What is the way to the place where the lightning is dispersed,
or the place where the east winds are scattered over the earth?
25 Who cuts a channel for the torrents of rain,
and a path for the thunderstorm,
26 to water a land where no one lives,
an uninhabited desert,
27 to satisfy a desolate wasteland
and make it sprout with grass?
28 Does the rain have a father?
Who fathers the drops of dew?
29 From whose womb comes the ice?
Who gives birth to the frost from the heavens
30 when the waters become hard as stone,
when the surface of the deep is frozen?
31 “Can you bind the chains[b] of the Pleiades?
Can you loosen Orion’s belt?
32 Can you bring forth the constellations in their seasons[c]
or lead out the Bear[d] with its cubs?
33 Do you know the laws of the heavens?
Can you set up God’s[e] dominion over the earth?
34 “Can you raise your voice to the clouds
and cover yourself with a flood of water?
35 Do you send the lightning bolts on their way?
Do they report to you, ‘Here we are’?
36 Who gives the ibis wisdom[f]
or gives the rooster understanding?[g]
37 Who has the wisdom to count the clouds?
Who can tip over the water jars of the heavens
38 when the dust becomes hard
and the clods of earth stick together?
39 “Do you hunt the prey for the lioness
and satisfy the hunger of the lions
40 when they crouch in their dens
or lie in wait in a thicket?
41 Who provides food for the raven
when its young cry out to God
and wander about for lack of food?

[quailshootr]

1 Chronicles 16:30: "He has fixed the earth firm, immovable.

[JohnSmith-jwzt]

Something tells me that people like Adam, Enoch, Noah, Abraham and so on had a very firm grasp on how the Sun, Moon and Stars worked in relation to the Earth. I would tend to lean towards their words as opposed to the people who said that humans evolved from goop.
P.S. Not only that but when YouTube has to put one of those boxes under the title of a video to remind you how and what to think, it's a pretty good indicator that you're on the right track.

[freedom-fighter-against-Terney]

I don't believe the Earth is a million years old. I believe what the Bible says. It's 6000 plus years old.

I believe God almighty, and it's only begotten. Son Jesus Christ that came down and sacrificed his life for to save us from our sins and rose on the 3rd day. To become our Lord king and savior.

[louism]

Joshua 10:12-13, Joshua prayed to God for the sun and the moon to stand still or freeze for a day
Earth don't move but only sun, moon, and stars (dome) because Earth is immovable.
Psalm 93:1
1 Chronicles 16:30

[Reesez-Blaze]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I find it funny how NASA confirms to providing generated images of what supposedly is our universe meaning only they see the actual thing and we don't have real photos of it(earth) from space yet we treat it like fact over God's truth.

[javi]

You either accept all of the Bible, or reject all of the Bible, no middle ground.

[CaliFloSince]

Exactly what I’d expect to hear from a Latter Day Saint….. pick and chose what you want to believe. I’ll choose the word! It’s the truth 🔥💯

[youdecidenews]

Bible actually says “It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:”
— Isaiah 40:22 (KJV)

[thedatasage]

What is true? What is false? Better to have faith in Jehovah's word and seek understanding than to believe man. Better to err in favor of God than to err in favor of another man that cannot save you. History cannot be changed but history books can. Say a lie enough times for generations and watch the lie become the truth. Unless you've seen the earth outside the firmament yourself with your own eyes and not CGI or photoshopped images, hold firm to the word the bible has provided. Seek wisdom knowledge and understanding.

[quailshootr]

Job 38:14 The earth takes shape like clay under a seal; its features stand out like those of a garment.'

How do you get a spinning ball in outer space out of this verse? When you press clay down as a seal, how does it form a ball or globe??

[jansencarr]

This guy is fighting his own inner struggle while acting like he is helping others with theirs. Defending a globe model that directly contradicts the Bible will ultimately lead more people away from scripture. I don’t think this is his goal but he is certainly acting as a heliocentric apologist. Conforming to the world and having faith in the teachings of men more than Gods word is very easy to do as you can see.

[tiffytoo]

If u see attack on the word open ur bible see the true scripture and ask God for the understanding