‘I WISH HIM WELL’: Pete Buttigieg DISMANTLES JD Vance On Maher | The Kyle Kulinski Show

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"The first time I ever really listened to Kyle Kulinski’s show was in the back of a cab last summer. The driver had his phone hooked up through the stereo and was pumping out an episode through the car speakers — loudly, as if looking to convert a captive audience.

“Do you like Kyle Kulinski?”

The driver, Ahmed, was a recent immigrant and apparently a die-hard fan of Secular Talk, the political talk show that Kulinski broadcasts on YouTube. I told him, yes, in fact. I do like Kulinski, had come across his show several years ago, and, all things considered, he seemed pretty good.

“He understands what we’re up against,” Ahmed said. “Like Bernie.”

But I was surprised to hear Kulinski’s name mentioned in the same breath as Bernie Sanders, particularly with such adoration. Because what I did remember about Kulinski’s show struck me as mostly capital-P “progressive” takes on the news — the left wing of the Netroots crowd more than the democratic socialism Sanders has popularized.

It’s an impression that wasn’t entirely incorrect.

“I have no time for philosophical, airy bullshit,” Kulinski tells me from his home in Westchester, New York. “I don’t want to hear about Lenin. I don’t want to hear about Marx. I just want a super plainspoken, straightforward agenda with a straightforward way of selling it.”

With over 800,000 subscribers and nearly 670 million total views on YouTube, selling a progressive agenda is clearly something Kulinski knows how to do — even Democracy Now, the long-standing flagship of progressive media, cannot match his reach on the platform. Chapo Trap House can certainly boast a wildly devoted fan base (and a not insignificant degree of media influence), but their audience is roughly half the size of Kulinski’s.

While Secular Talk might be more likely to be looped in with the progressive networks around Air America and Pacifica alums like Sam Seder than the more resolutely socialist world, Kulinski’s fiery rhetoric, razor-sharp class instincts, and knack for withering takedowns sets him apart from his peers. Judging by his rhetoric alone, he’s closer to a Eugene Debs than a Chris Hayes.

But unlike Hayes, Amy Goodman, or his friend Cenk Uygur of The Young Turks — who began airing Secular Talk on his web network seven years ago — the thirty-two-year-old Kulinski is virtually invisible in the mainstream media. Despite his enormous fan base, his show has never once been mentioned in the obligatory trend pieces on “the Millennial Left” pumped out by the prestige media. Nor has Kulinski’s name ever popped up at all in the New York Times, Vox, the New Yorker, New York Magazine, or the Washington Post, despite his leading role in cofounding Justice Democrats, the organization widely credited with sweeping Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the rest of “the Squad” to power.

Just last week, his Wikipedia page was deleted. The reason? “There is very simply no [reliable source] coverage of this person,” according to one moderator. In new media, he’s king — the Sean Hannity of the Berniecrat left. In old media, he’s nobody.

I suspect there are a few reasons for that. There is nothing “cool” about Kulinski’s show. (As a friend put it, “‘Welcome to Secular Talk’ sounds like something you’d hear on Egyptian radio.”) His no-nonsense social-democratic politics won’t get him much cred with the Full Communism crowd. He records his show not in Brooklyn or Los Angeles, but in a studio he built himself in his modest Westchester home. His hair is too groomed and his taste in clothes too preppy to qualify as “Dirtbag Left.” Nor has he ever attended an n+1 release party. “Not only have I not attended one,” he says, “I have no idea what that means.”

And yet he’s astonishingly plugged-in for a young man in the suburbs. Wondering how Sanders ended up on the Joe Rogan Experience? Kulinski, a frequent guest on Rogan’s wildly popular show, introduced them. “You make the most sense to me,” Rogan told Kulinski on a recent episode. “You’re a normal person.”

Much like Sanders himself, Kulinski’s show has a massive audience that just doesn’t compute with our media’s understanding of “what the kids want” or even “what the left-wing kids want.”

It’s probably for the best — the very woke and very WASP-ish decorum haunting much of the media world is nowhere to be found in Secular Talk. “Corporate Democrats over-focus on identity as a trick to divert you from the issues that unite us all — class issues,” he said on a recent episode.

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You know what Kyle, I didn’t really like Pete four years ago, but he has proven how good he is at politics since he’s been more public in the Biden administration. He hits it every time bro, he’s really good at this

stevenrebelli
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Morgan Freeman: He did not in fact wish him well.

spicymemes
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Uhmmm. .. Buttigieg is probably the most brilliant communicator the Democrats have.
That's been known since he entered the political scene in 2019. And you would know this
if you didn't spend 95% of your time hating on the guy.

cybersapien
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Not sure why people on the left dislike Pete, the guy is smart and quick on his feet. Seems counterintuitive to knock someone who routinely dismantles the GOP/MAGA so well…

brette.
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I’ve never been a Pete fan but he is quick on his feet in verbal sparring.

mgm
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Buttigieg is much more tolerable as a spokesperson than as a political candidate. He's kind of a great communicator when he can be honest.

emjaycpe
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How can you not be a fan of Buttigieg? He’s the smartest person in Washington. He’s amazing!

shawnstone
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Damn, Pete really wants to be Kamala's VP.

MystLunarabne
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I wish her well.... isn't that what Trump said about Epstein's wife

CK-jdwo-test
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Wait. So the dems did a smart thing by letting trump pick the wrong VP and THEN getting rid of Biden.

Oh shit. Well played.

ReleaseMyKrakken
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C'mon man, whatever you think of Buttigieg, he's one of the most oratorically gifted politicians of his generation. He's thinks quick, presents cogent arguments, sounds convincing when he speaks and never seems to stumble on words.

TheRealBlueSwan
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As an overseas viewer, can anyone explain to me why Buttigieg is unliked? The small bits I've seen from him over the years have been impressive...

philipmcdonald
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I think you’re underestimating Pete. What are your reasons for that?

Dognacity
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The Liberal Redneck, Trae Crowder, did a hilarious segment on JD Vance, and said he has the same integrity as a 737 Boeing. 😅

brendag
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Not sure what your issue is with Pete… he’s a beast. Comes with receipts, and numbers to back up his arguments and is absolutely razor sharp. I’d love Kamala to pick him as her VP

pwnyboyog
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Say what you will about Pete, but he simple shreds these republicans every time the try to corner him, it’s great to watch.

larryk
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Haha "Pete that's you as well" is exactly what i was thinking 🤣

NeoKailthas
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I still don’t understand why Kyle hates Mayor Pete.

unwishfulthink
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I had rhe same thought as Kyle after hearing Kamala speak the other day. The contrast to Biden's stumbling confused way of speaking really makes these dems look good. Trump has aged as well these past 4 years. He is going to have s much harder time dealing with someone not named Biden.

solitude
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Pete gave an interview a couple years ago where he said hungry babies are the “price of the free market” Even by corporate dem standards, he is a ghoul. I hope he is not the VP pick

vsmith