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Byzantine Empire vs Holy Roman Empire
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[SandorClegane]

1. It was not byzantium. thats what we call it today. Back then, it was rome. Rome rome rome. Eastern Roman Empire. They had legions, roman Culture, Held the city of rome itself, And Revived the Roman Empire. "Byzantium" Was founded by Diocletian, and if you consider diocletian a roman emperor, then that makes Justinian and emperor too.
2. HRE was sort of rome, but not really. it was more a religious Recreation than actually rome. had 0 roman culture, was founded by a carolingian/frank, it was not an empire, not roman, and barely holy.
3. Eastern Roman Empire wins this neg difference(east rome was the richest and most powerful millitary power of their time
ESPECIALLY under belisarius.

[eggbenedict]

Just to list of things that are wrong here.

- First of all, the borders of the Byzatine empire are wrong, not a single time does the Byzatine empire have Neapolitania, Sicilly and Sardinia at the same time as the empire only has the Balkan and Anatolia as shown here (mostlikely around the start of the 11th Century) . Sardinia was lost during the 9th century, sicilly at the beginning of the 10th century. both when the Holy Roman Empire wasnt even existing, the Neapolitania borders also dont match, as they already lost almost all of the south italian coast to the likes of Apulia and Salezo at the time, lastly even though they controlled small towns at the Crimean peninsula, they did not control the entire souther coast, They infact never did. not even at the Golden Time during Justinian.

Also small note, Most western balkan areas (croatians serbians etc.) where only vasalls or marchs, and were lost less than a decade later.

- The Holy Roman Empire did not have a capital nor were they a unified Empire, they were a state of bigger and smaller dukes ruling over pieces of land Electing a King every time their older King Passes. There is no such thing as fighting the empire in a whole, neither did they controll Italy nor Germany to a whole, Venice is only one example.
(do not mention how they controlled Sicilly+Neapolitania at one point, that was centuries later)

- The HRE has no Capital nor did it have a centralized point of goverment. Aachen and Rome where simply notible cities, Aachen was the old holy site where Kings of germany where crowned but that was it. It was jsut a formality. Most German kings in the medivial ages until the Harbsburgs took controll simply just moved from one City to another.

- The Byzatines would not have gotten away with this. Just earlier the Pope caused the Empoar to kneel down to the pope because he was excumunated from the Church. Any idea what would have happened if the pope says they were in danger of a heaven empire having the gal to call themself the Roman Empire to invade the Seat of God ?

- The Byzatine Empire had no stable army at all, they relied on mercenaries more than actualy trained tropps (the reason by the way why a few years later anatolia collapsed into chaos) they never would have been ably to amass that many troups to conquor as much as some lands in italy that were showed here, infact most of the italian provinces where already lost 20 years after the border of byzatine is shown here *because they couldnt afford troops or means to further protect it*

- "the itlians know how strong the byzatines are" Yes a crippling empire barely holding against the Bulgarians and less so the Turks sure shows how strong they are, which is why they threw them out of Italy enitrely in 1071, they were washed up at this point. no need to sugarcoat it keep in mind not 50 years later

- The Lands annexed are ludicrious, even in imagination it would not work, That "empire" wouldnt last a year, yet alone be enforced at all. Keep in mind, the Byzatines *RUN ON MERCENARIES*, try to run that much land with paied mercs, Justinian barely could controll Italy with a generation of perfect generals and soldiers how could they controll it without any of the 2 ?

- The Regions with the Italian rebells make no sense in the western parts close to france, they were rules by the Burgundy, a small kingdome consiting of french, switzerlandish regions, not dominated by Italians at all also neither would the italians work with the byzatines, they were in a war agaisnt them just decades earlier **with** the HRE as protector.

- The Byzatines never would have had the shame of calling themself the "2nd roman empire" they *are the Roman Empire* its a repeating misconception of many people, the name "Byzatine Empire" was given by historians many centuries later to dicept it from the Ancient Roman Empire, the name of the empire that rules from 395 to 1453 (remnants until 1460s even) is and always was the "Eastern" Roman Empire.

[Zelgah]

The Roman Empire is the Roman Empire. Byzantines wouldnt change their name

[Arrosticini_Enjoyer]

Repubblica Cisalpina vs Impero Bizantino be like:
[Discord reference]

[SandorClegane]

Belisarius captured rome and romanna why did you not put central italy under east rome?

[gillesaboubechara]

The name of the Roman Empire after the war is terrible. The Roman Empire shouldn't change its name

[SoftJellauw]

unaccurate byzatines WOULD HAVE NEVER been able to get this mcuh land against he hre at this point of history where the byzantines were a crippling empire