SLOG3 vs S-Cinetone - What’s The Difference?

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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
01:07 - Side By Side Footage
01:41 - What is SLOG3 and S-Cinetone?
02:50 - Dynamic Range
03:40 - Dual Native ISO
05:05 - Sponsor Epidemic Sound
06:55 - Ease of Use
07:50 - Filming My Life

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[hellopsp]

Makes sense
SLOG3 for Movies - high-budget films or projects that you want high Dynamic Range
S-Cinetone for quick work flow. Shoot and upload

[Ziggy]

Great vid explaining and showing the difference. Of all the sony vids i've watched, no one has pointed out the slog/cinetone base ISO differences. Very informative and well explained.

[Jayell]

SO EXCITED FOR THIS!! THANK YOU!!! Now I gotta go and change it to S-Cinetone! 😊

[TryingBrian]

For the run and gun usage, especially for youtube, s cine-tone is perfectly fine. Nice to have slog3 for low light though.

[mike_s_media]

I edit in Davinci Resolve and it couldn't be easier to use any log footage. You literally set up the timeline to convert your footage from log to Rec 709. and you can simply save and apply any adjustments to all the clips you drop in. Then you have log footage that is fine with minimal tweaking that barely takes any time at all and if needed you have log footage that can be heavily adjusted. The only thing I noticed in your footage was Profile B was significantly sharper than A and B looked ever so slightly more saturated. Also, SLOG3 on the Alpha 1 iso's are 800 and 4, 000 not 640 and 12, 800.

[jaymills]

Some of the cameras you mentioned can shoot with LUTs baked in meaning no post processing needed.

[AnotherBrightIdea]

Great video. They changed the native ISO’s for the FX3 are 800 and 12, 800 in the last update. TBF there’s a lot of confusion out there about this.

[teamsaunz]

The knowledge you have in cameras is baffling. Most stuff you talk about I have never heard of. Btw, did not hear the charm bracelets linking…but what a sweet FD gift, better than a tie.

[sebasfilmedit]

I thought the native ISO for sony a7iv was 800 and 3200

[rhyansanpedro]

This is great David! S Cinetone is perfect enough for YouTube. Besides your content is awesome that I'd still watch it even if you shot it from a 2005 potato phone camera 😂

[richarddzisiewski]

Really good piece. I feel that s cinetone is really underused. I'd say roughly 70% of my work is shot in this as theres a fast turnaround and s cinetone can also take some work in post to tweak the image. Working in slog is great but to get the best from it you dont just throw a lut in it and walk away. I think you have evaluate what the client needs, what platform its going on and take it from there and potentially save yourself a ton of work in post.

[gerrypi]

Dual native ISO: with S-Cinetone I get bokeh more easily because of ISO 100; while with S-Log3 and mandatory ISO 640 you have to use a variable ND filter. I still only film with S-Log3.

[GeneralExpert]

I’m wondering with the 14 stops for SLOG3 and the 11 with SCinetone, are there only 14 stops while the footage is ungraded/flat? And therefore, after grading you end up with the similar 11stops that you have with SCinetone? In other words, is SCinetone simply Sony’s “$100k” grade of SLOG3?

Thanks 🤙

[keema]

This video for sure add value to people who switch over. I came from nikon to Sony due to creating more wedding videos now. Thanks for share the difference and when to use which one.

[mlangenberg]

For filming your life, do you use a 24p or 30p frame rate? And do you keep the record setting at 4:2:2 10bit – as you would for S-Log – or do you go with a lower bitrate, such as 100M 4:2:0 8bit or 60M 4:2:0 8bit, which would be more suitable for dumping straight into Apple Photos?

[WilliamHenryAlbert]

Thanks for this brilliant explanation, I learnt a lot.

[paulg]

Thanks for this Video. I also shoot in SLOG3 and edit in DR, and can see the benefits for the future if/when I become more proficient at Color Grading/Editing etc to future proof myself, however, you did make a really great point here. For some impromptu Videos around the Family, out in the Garden etc, S-Cinetone would do the job and avoid editing the footage, so I did a few Videos yesterday and I have to say they were pretty awesome! for my simple needs, this was a great shout, so thanks! I will continue to shoot everything else in SLOG3, but for this kind of purpose which I would usually grab my iPhone for, it's way way better ! thanks man

[WarriorVideographer]

Doing research on S Log 3 & S cinetone what I figured out is that S Log 3 it makes you the director over your footage with the help of a lut if you want, with S cinetone the director is the camera and you are the white balance card who makes small adjustments to the footage hopefully that makes sense.

[kdleifert]

Was very compelled to move over to Cinetone for my Youtube content (mainly talking head). However, I often mix talking head studio setting with outdoor footage. For me slog3 is no more time intensive than cinetone as daVinci Resolve's conversion is pretty accurate. So to allow mixing my footage more seamlessly slog3 is the clear winner. (I do admit that I liked the skin tones in cinetone out of the box better)

[jonathanshilton]

Thanks for the vid David. I'm gonna finally bite the bullet and start learning how to shoot and edit S-Log 3. I shoot a lot of real estate and tried a bunch of colour profiles, Cine 4 and S cinetone to try and make my work flow in post quicker easier, but with the need for a high dynamic range when shooting interiors I think I'm finally gonna have to up my game. Looking forward to shooting with the Sony ZV E1 soon!