Can you combine S-LOG3 with S-Cinetone? Let's Find Out...

Can you combine S-Log3 with S-Cinetone to create the ultimate picture profile?! Let's try to make an extremely high dynamic range picture profile that also looks great straight out of camera!

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0:00 Can you combine SLOG3 & S-Cinetone to make the ultimate picture profile?!
0:43 PP8 and PP11 differences
1:48 SLOG3 & S-Cinetone straight out of camera
2:32 PP8 & PP11 with S-Cinetone Gamma and SGAMUT3.CINE Color Mode
3:34 PP8 and PP11 with SLOG3 Gamma and S-Cinetone Color Mode
4:59 Are there any benefits to combining SLOG3 with S-Cinetone?
5:56 A Color Grading Shortcut For You ;)

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[antiseth]

Hehehe I kinda called the answer at the beginning. The whole point of S-log3 capture is maximizing the dynamic range of the camera, so looking good out of camera is not the priority. This is where you use a LUT preview on your external monitor to understand what it will look like when you apply a grade. I do think the s-log3 capture with s-cinetone color space is a neat idea though. All you have to do is apply your basic exposure curve, adjust your saturation, and BAM. S-cinetone with the dynamic range of s-log3.

[Sirfunkymonkey]

Yes you can, Shoot s-log3, use cinematch to get s-cinetone from the fx9 profile. Also has the rec709 conversion built it. Not to mention you can match arri, red and almost any other camera without mucking around with picture profiles.

[BoulevardRecording]

So i shot one camera in SLOG3 and my 2nd in vlog cinetone !!! And i cannot match them.

[camerative_wedding]

Matt, thanks for the video. But I just have one question- What color is your t-shirt?:) After color grading in S Log its turquoise, but with Cinetone profile it's purple.

[OfficeofthePacific]

Matt, I clicked on your WhoISMATTLuts, but the examples were from SLOG 3 to LUT applied. Do you have any examples or videos of what footage looks like with S-Cinetone and then applying your LUTS? Thanks

[greenlightstudios]

Quick question, or you can point me to a video if needed, what does black level, black gamma and Knee do? Is this something we shouldn't mess with or is there potential of lifting the blacks even further? Thanks

[ryanpallotta]

Can you dhoot in s log but view image in s cinetone?

[aarynfaolain]

I was honestly just looking into this today. Unbelievable timing. Thank you so much!

[WarnerVision]

Thanks for the video. Just one thing, you say when having the settings the same in both PP8 and PP11 that the results were similar. They will be in fact identical if all the settings remain the same, as the number of the PP in itself is irrelevant, they are just memory settings.

[edithgarcia]

This profile settings works in the sony A7III??

[DaddingAllDay]

Would the A7s III settings download work with the FX3?

[jessea.]

I know this is an old vid now, but did you ever try Slog-2 with S-Cinetone? I just used it and it looks great SOOC while giving a great middle ground between DR and colors without having to grade

[TLOverlander]

I shoot in slog 3, and in Resolve, I work in HDR colour space...for my slog clips, I just tell Resolve that the input colour space is S-Gamut3.Cine/Slog3 and this gives me a much niceer, more dynamic image to work with...same S-Cine look but with Slog dynamic range and just some minor colour tweaking needed

[RafickBottse]

hi matt do you have any recommendation for a pc setup that can work properly with sonya7s3 footage without using proxies ?

[olegvorkunov]

Actually I found the combination of Gamma as SLog3 and Color mode as S-Cinetone works best for me creating best HDR videos just simply setting Color Managment in Davinci from SLog3.Cine to Rec2100 ST2084 with no additional LUTs.

[kirstenpotts_]

QUESTION: if I decide to shoot with combination of Gamma as SLog3 and Color mode as S-Cinetone, which duel native ISO would I chose for the A7SIII (since the duel native ISO is different between SLog3 and S-Cinetone)? I'm assuming the duel native ISO associated with SLog3?

[joesheridan]

Hi Matt, would you apply the same ISO levels in this instance if you were to combine S Log 2/3 with S-Cinetone? Thanks

[ChhotaTalkies]

My Sony 7s3 camera does not have pp11, Y like that, I bought 2 days ago

[dpeals]

Lookup lutcalc tutorial. You can create a conversion lut.

[molcajetefilms]

But what if.. like my case .. i cant use SLOG-3 cause my laptop is not powerful enough for 4k 10 bit 2:2:2.... first question: is it right that if you don´t shoot at 10 bit, it is better to shoot in SLOG2 than SLOG3??? in that ...case would you use SLOG2 or CINETONE??? Would Slog2 look better than CINETONE after coloring?? what would be your best settings if you have a workstation not powerful enough for 4k 10 bit 2:2??