Stoicism vs. Aristotle vs. Epicureanism: A Philosophical Debate

Massimo Pigliucci, stoic philosopher and professor of philosophy and author of How To Be A Stoic, compares stoic philosophy with Aristotelianism and Epicurean philosophy.

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[owenhale]

Aristotle does say externals are important however he does not preclude those without good fortune from pursuing the good as this professor seems to claim here. It's a simplistic take to on Aristotle to say 'if you're not rich and handsome to begin with you are screwed', rather, these things are seen like coefficients which could enhance one's ability to live well. It is Aristotle's dose of rationalism over idealism in the discussion of ethics.

[NewCyrenaic]

It’s quite strange to talk about virtue in an Ancient Greek context and boil it down to “being nice”, or to otherwise imply that these were primarily a matter of interpersonal relationships. Certainly some of the virtues concerned such cases, but these were primary a matter of personal character and behaviour.

[hcct]

Some Epicureans may have lived in the Gardens, but many of them didn't. And Epicureans were involved in politics, they just didn't think it was an inherently good thing to be involved and thst it eas best to keep it to a minimum lf what was useful for maintaining a good evnironnent for peace. Epicureanism was the court philosophy of Antiochus, the philosophy of Julius Caesar's brother in law Piso, and even one of Caesar's assassins Cassius (thoug you could argue he departed from the school's ethic when engaging in the assassination). The head of one of the Epicurean schools in Syria was even a priest, which would have been a role of decent social responsibility.