SO You Want to Be a Diagnostic Tech???

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Famous comment I get from people is”your gonna charge me just to look at it”, my response is to step out the door and look at the car and say that’s looking at it.

cindyeva
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the only big money I've seen in diagnostics is how much it costs to get tooled up to work on all sorts of systems

jwilkers
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YES, training, if you haven’t learned to be proficient with a DVOM you cannot expect to pickup a scanner or scope and expect to be able to diagnose modern automobiles. Knowing basic electrical is essential, even for a mid level tech, electronics are not going away, communication systems are more and more prevalent with each new model, what used to be circuitry, like lamps and wipers will be communicating over network to modules, it’s happening. The days of harness repair are all but gone, if you make a repair attempt to a safety system harness you are liable for any consequences if the repair fails, communication wires to ABS, power steering, ADAS, BSM, SRS, and thats just the common knowledge systems, wipers and exterior lighting are a couple others. If y’all thinking a wire repair is worth having that liability is worth it, well I hope you’re doing OEM quality work, because times are changing rapidly in this field. How about this question, “you’re food only had one pubic hair in it, why did you send the whole plate back?” A wire break in the middle of a harness is the same, if it were your own pube, sure pick it out, but when it’s someone else’s, you’re gonna need a fresh plate.

paulstrymecki
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Couldn't agree more

Thanks for the shout out!

SuperMarioDiagnostics
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Should be the aspirational goal of many mid-level techs. Seems to be where the future is. As you said learn the fundamentals, it’s not just plug and play, no matter how much you spent on your scan tool.

cardo
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I'm ok with being a mid level tech, hardcore diagnostics gives me a major headache.

SAMUGOPOO
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I took a electrical diag position in a UAW factory back in September and lemme tell ya its been rough. Our new truck we launched has 9 CAN networks on the higher end units. I’m miles ahead of where i was but still have so much more to go. I sure as hell would never want to do this work on flat rate.

dirtracingfan
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Bernie at Automotive Test Solutions is another I like to watch because he gets some weird ones.

Troy_Built
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Flat Rate Master.. I agree 100% with you Mike. Just because you buy an expensive scan tool does not mean you know how to use it. I've seen that too many times on YouTube.. Training is key.

RenegadesGarage
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EVs and Hybrids are going to be the future. Less engine, more computers. You’re right. Roll with the times or be left behind.

emiliog.
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Electric/Electronic diagnosis is where this industry is headed . In future the easy gravy work like engine oil changes will be a thing of the past so there’s no better time to add diag skills to your capabilities than right now 👍 Of course you still have to be willing to do the gravy work if that’s all there is in the shop that day because it makes the company good money but having good accurate diag skills will serve you well in the not to distant future 👍

MVS
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I’ve always compared an everyday tech to a diagnostic tech as a voodoo doctor compared to a Harvard trained physician

rwrobs
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There are also some incredibly good books available. It's old fashioned maybe, but to me the learning is faster than having to go to classes and/or listen to people talking on YT. In the end, each individual has to do their own learning. No-one can just upload knowledge into their head. Books for the win.

speedy_pit_stop
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Thank you for explaining the diagnostic world.

julioalcaraz
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Out where I am at, people are used to the parts cannon approach of repairs. They have a hard time believing that you need to diagnose properly to save them the heartache of unneeded parts.

stevenashley
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I would also suggest subscribing to some electronics channels like EEVblog and Learn Electronics Repair. Knowing how circuits and components work is very helpful. The line between automotive and electronics repair is starting to blur. Not saying you need to work on SMD’s, but knowledge of how to look at a PCB and know what is going on is pretty useful.

bosborn
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so instead of repairing one wire you sold an entire harness? find where its broken, run a jumper.

epicragegaming
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Flat rate master for president. Relatable, intelligent, great communicator, not biased, and honest with best intentions for everyone.

jbb
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Scanner Danner is dope! That dude has a lot of knowledge and explains the info very well.learned alot from him👍🏽

tonistarks
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To be clear, programming modules and keys is not diagnostics. It's programming, which is sitting down tapping on a laptop. There is no diagnostics involved in that. Finding an intermittent short on an interior lights fuse is diagnostics.

joeandgod