7 Reasons to Trust the Bible... Messianic Prophecy

Jenni Lehmann teaches Bible at a high school, so she's walking TikTok through each of her lessons as she takes us all through a book called "7 Reasons Why You Can Trust the Bible" by Edwin Lutzer.

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[Marine_Veteran_Vegan_Gamer]

I trust the bible as much I trust the cons/grifters pushing the bible.

[deeactive]

When you look for truth in what you already believe. You seem to always find it.

[silverlightsinaugust]

“The universe popping into existence out of nothing is unlikely, so it can’t be true.”

“One man fulfilling eight prophecies is unlikely, so it must be true.”

[roberthawes]

1. I read in some ancient, anonymous books that a guy fulfilled a bunch of prophecies.
2. Surely, no one would make that up.
3. This is, therefore, proof that the books in question come from God.

Makes sense.

Now on to physics...

[SciPunk]

When assessing an argument, I try to start with both sides on equal footing.
If one side makes a good point, I put them a little higher.
If they make a BAD point, I put them a little lower.
Jenny gives a litany of bad points, so instead of convincing me, she actually strengthens my opposition.
She's keeps digging a hole for herself.

[TheLithp]

I love the apologist trope of inventing an extremely stupid skeptical counter explanation that nobody actually uses but it still makes more sense than what they're claiming happened.

[crizolaczarrazcalozirc]

Yeah, I agree with you Paul hundred percent, I’m surprised that there are places in this world that allow a person like Jenny to tell this stuff to your children like it’s true, that’s the real crime here

[paulherring]

Paulogia prophesied that people would leave comments! People are leaving commits; therefore Paulogia is a prophet.

😂

[johnd.shultz]

This woman reminds me of a bible teacher marm i was exposed to as a 10 year old kid back in the 60's, she's all about Certainty, has no ability to doubt Anything shes been conditioned by, absolutely believes in childish stories and comes off like a hypnotized x-tian robot, she gives me the same queasy feeling my bible teacher did so many decades ago....

[OscarSommerbo]

I love how her entire faith seems to be based on the gospel writers being 100% truthful. Not the characters in the book, they are literary characters, so they can be made to be 100% truthful, but the writers... Not fudging anything, not straighten out a weird inconsistency... No, just 100% truthful and 100% infallible.

[hellonewman]

I have study Stoner carefully on this. He assumed a prophecy; then assumed a fulfillment. And then proceeded to calculate the odds. His math may be formally correct just as a syllogism may be deductively valid but unsound in light of its concrete content. It is Stoner's concrete content that make his conclusions unsound. Stoner assumes his conclusion in his premises, then makes impressive calculations which have only hypothetical significance.

[billmauer]

Paul lays out very nicely his standards for accepting a "prophecy" and they are absolutely reasonable standards. Unfortunately christians who want to believe their bible so badly don't have standards for prophecy. They just accept without giving it much thought. It's very sad that we're in 2023 and we have so many people fumbling around believing things without good reasons.

[LS-klbj]

There's a phrase for what she alleges as prophecy. It is called "proof texting". This is discussed in Levine and Brettler, The Bible With and Without Jesus (Chapter 2). It was common for Jewish followers of Jesus in the first century to search their Scriptures (AKA Hebrew Bible) and reinterpret passages, applying them to their own religious experiences. Not even close to genuine, predictive prophecies.

[marcomoreno]

Paul you owe me a beer, this lady is giving me an aneurysm but I'm watching till the end for the Channel's sake.

[TheHookahSmokingCaterpillar]

Each time you show one of these I'm never quite sure which shocks me more, her content or her pedagogy.

[Michael-lqtd]

Jenni seems like a sweet, kind person that just holds a few incorrect presuppositions. I hope she's watching these responses.

[davesimms]

It should be noted than in MacBeth “not born of a woman” meant brought into the world by caesarean section.

[bipolarrambling]

I hope some of the kids in her classes see this.

[lnsflare]

Well she convinced me. I guess that multiple disagreeing stories written decades after the alleged events in question, by people who never met anyone in the stories but *did* read the "prophecies" that their messiah would need to fulfill are an accurate way to convey historical knowledge.

[cyssoK]

This is my favorite reaction series ever