Teyvat's False Sky & Simulation, Truth Of Celestia, Fate & The Abyss - Natlan 5.1 Story Explained

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Teyvat's False Sky & Simulation, Truth Of Celestia, Fate & The Abyss - Natlan 5.1 Story Explained
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I know the lore of all 3 games can be abit much and mixing the lores can get overwhelming especially if you dont play all the games but I'm curious what you all think of the false sky what purpose it serves for people within and what lies beyond 😊

TheGamerChronicles
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The broken sky is crazy and all, but what’s crazier? millions of swarm insects coming out of the hole in the sky

kvs
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It would be quite funny if Traveler becomes Akivili. Akivilis homeplanet is suppoused to be isolated and it is named "Pegana" that is probably reference to book "The Gods of Pegāna" which is fantasy novel about multiple gods living in Pegāna, which would fit Teyvat pretty well, since there are so many gods there too.

mikkomuukka
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I kinda agree hoyo are professionnal at hiding thing at plain sight, i mean look at the events when mika said that capitano had blue glowing eyes and then capitano himself tell us he's from kaenhria :P

wegrx
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Colombina be like: let's see if you are worthy enough to walk among angels😈

Stormcrosser
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Capitano refers Lumine as "The princess" so yeah, that pretty much confirm Lumine is the princess that went to the abyss

robertorange
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OH MY GOD. THE GAMER CHRONICLES 1 HOUR LORE VIDEO 10 MIN AGO?? AM LIVING BABY!! (Hoping for a Columbina vid soon too!) Thanks for all the work you put in, it's always so interesting watching thease!

Venjoy_zzz
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Damn I did not expect to get featured in a video. Thanks for the shoutout! Anyway here are some mistakes you made I will point out: (common misconceptions due to EN misinterpretation from CN text)

The Imaginary Tree is a representation of the universe. Worlds in the Honkaiverse are around the size of a solar system, each being separated by barriers of imaginary energy that cannot be traversed through without being an Emanator, Aeon, or possessing certain FTL technology. The reason many people mistakenly consider "worlds" as universes is due to old EN misinterpretations within HI3rd. The original CN text follows the "1 universe, many worlds" rule.

The Honkai stems from the Cocoon of Finality. The Honkai is NOT a test to determine whether a world should be pruned, it is a test for humanity to evolve and eventually embrace the Cocoon of Finality. The CoF is a higher dimensional being, which Dr. MEI theorised to have come into existence via an alien civilisation merging itself with their planet. Essentially, the Cocoon put the Sol. System in a bloody cycle of trial and error over the course of millions of years. Each time Humanity succumbed to the Honkai the Cocoon would turn back time and restart the clock, allowing for a "new" humanity emerge again only to eventually face the Honkai as they grow more and more advanced. This cycle would eventually be broken due to Elysia's existence being a "glitch in the system", allowing for the creation of Herrschers that choose to fight for Humanity to exist. This cycle was done because the Cocoon is estimated to have been around for billions of years, and thus had become extremely lonely as no other beings were able to properly communicate with them due to being in a higher plane of existence. We do know Honkai is not restricted to one world alone thanks to the Sky People, so it may be possible more than one Cocoon of Finality exists in the universe, as the Cocoon is only able to affect 1 world at a time.

unseensun
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remember that still to this day no playable character has a P in their name. there is just paimon, the primordial one, phanes, primos... there is something going on

Lubossxd
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You have to think about the abyss as an invisible ocean. On the ocean there exists lilly pads. One of those pads had someone land on it and they created a huge dome that covers a portion of it. Whatever is inside the dome is still thriving and full of life. Outside the dome is a dead area.
Beings can travel from pad to pad using the abyss. The abyss is constantly trying to drown the pad and the pad drinks the abyss in order to maintain itself. It’s a back and forth.
The sky people are running across a dead universe because they’re being chased by the Honkai. They happened upon the dome and they broke in and took over. The dome is currently keeping them safe while they steal all the resources and leave Tevat as dead as the rest of the universe.
Fatui will destroy the dome and allow the Honkai to fight the Sky People. Once they’re defeated the Will of the Honkai will reverse the universal damage and reignite the dead star so that the area outside the dome can sustain life again

robertsanssouci
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Honestly, this was probably one of the most convincing theories I've seen. I really love how you put it all together starting from yhe beginning to where we are now, and how it connects to the Honkai games.

shopnil
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If we are speaking Genshin being a canonical part of the star rail universe, then there is one theory I'd like to bring up made by Wei. This theory suggests that the Traveler is an Aeon or will become one, specifically Akivili, or at the very least connected with the Astral express. First of all, there is a suspicious amount of symbols on the Traveler's clothes that is also on the Astral Express train. Take a good look at the male traveler and the Astral Express Train. The color scheme is exactly the same, both share the pattern called "Fluer de lis", which you can see on the Traveler's little round circle at the belt of the pants and on the shoulder pads, while Fluer de lis is present on the front of the Astral express on the right side of the circle on the front.

Zhongli likens the Traveler as observers in Teyvat. Dan Heng refers to the nameless as observers of countless worlds.

Akivili is latin corruption of Aquila, and in Genshin, there's a weapon called "Aquila Favonia". Aquila Favonia is the weapon of Vanessa, one of the four winds. Now Venti becomes important. Nahida, the last official archon to release, has already had 2 story quests. Venti, the first ever banner five star, has only had his one, and he is an Archon. You'd expect him to be more important? He is. Venti asks us at the end of the Mondstadt quest that once we find our sister, if we would like to become one of the four winds. A god, basicly. This is a super early foreshadowing of Traveler's ascension to godhood, or perhaps Aeonhood

First of all, look at the traveler's character profile. "The Keeper is fading away (Dainsleif, the bough keeper probably), the creator has not yet come. But the world shall burn no more, for you shall ascend." Ascend to become a god or Aeon likely. If you take a look at Venti's statue in mondstadt, you'll see symbols. If you flip it, it litterally spells out "The gateway of Celestia". Venti's second quest can only come once we're ready to become a god.

However, this character profile can also be interpreted as the ascension to become a loom of fate, because Traveler's final character profile is litterally called "Loom of fate" and Dainsleif says that if we defeat him at the end of our journey, the threads of all fate are ours to weave. So, the Aeonhood theory might be less credible because of this, however, It is scary that how much of paralells you can draw towards the Traveler and Akivil.

wnther
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There's a very interesting dialogue in Honkai Star Rail that I've always felt is a reference to Teyvat, the false sky and the Irminsul "database."
If you go to the Divination Commission, near the place where you can regularly talk to Fu Xuan, there's a "Matrix Manager" named Huixing who says:

"Xianzhou had once visited a world where the residents used something called an Aquascope to scry into the future. That thing was even more accurate than the Matrix of Prescience, and our exploration team couldn't help but pore ourselves into researching this technology. We later came to realize that this Aquascope was no mystery at all. That world simply has a limited amount of information. There wasn't much computational power and data input needed to predict the future there. In comparison, the Luofu sails through galaxies of stars, not a machine-esque world as predictable as a complex clockwork of unerring precision."

I think this very obviously refers to the scryglass Mona and other astrologists use to read fate in Teyvat, but we know that fate is determined by the false sky or Irminsul, which fits the description of a "machine-esque clockwork world." If the IPC stumbled upon this "Tevyat, " it's plausible that the Xianzhou also did at some point.

ZeroShiGu
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I find it really interesting that out of all the nations in Teyvat, only the history of the Shogun's second story quest would survive. Now that I think about it, the very purpose of the Yae Publishing house was to foster writing and literacy throughout the people of Inazuma. Yae Miko even says in her voice lines that she views the stories that people write and pass down as a form of eternity. It could very well be that the stories of Inazuma outlasted the histories of the other nations by the time the ICP arrives.

electricallymarshmallows
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One giveaway for Teyvat being a simulated Universe is the millisecond you go into the menu. If you watch closely you can see a wiremesh of the world before it loads the Character menu. A wiremesh for a world based on polygons. A game. This is a very odd stylistisc choice for the overall art style of Teyvat. I only noticed it myself because the game froze for a second while loading.

PenWinter
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If you think about it. The advanced dragon civilization in Natlan maybe Teyvat's Vidyadhara or a species very similar to them. 🤔

seraphi
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Listening to you talk about Genshin lore is an important part of my evening wind down ritual. Been listening for years!

SubutaiProduction
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I find it interesting that multiple times you were talking about how genshin is a simulated universe and how HSR One of the endgame content is called simulated universe and how herta made simulated universe and with the reveal of the possibility of what her real body looks like it looks very similar to a witch and a witch of the hexan circle is known for traveling outside of Teyvat as well as the fact that most simulated universe are based on a historical event that happened. So what if Genshin is just a simulated universe that is trying to recover the past of what happened in Tayvet

lunachappell
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Generally there are three ways for Civilization to deal with Honkai:

1. Complete Rejection: Venus and PE approach. Just fight them head on. Generally result in failure.
2. Evacuate to Simulated Universe: Digitize everyone and have them live in sufficiently advanced quantum computer, advanced enough it's considered Bubble World, not 'just' simulation. Mars approach, and roughly comparable to Project Stigma. Actual world still get destroyed, which result in Cocoon move on to next planet.
3. Embrace with Cocoon: Kiana and CE approach. Gain power from Cocoon and wield Finality power.

XMitrilXPL
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About samsara cycles, nahida straight up tells us that teyvat is in a loop, not to mention that there was this note that specificied which samsara cycle teyvat was in and that note was in fontaine, as i remember clearly.

Not to mention that sumeru probably forshadows teyvats Fate if we see how we are in a loop in the sumeru archon quest, i wanted to say that teyvat wasn't real but a dream but then i realized that ipc discovered it soo my point crumbles down, but we are definitely on a loop that's for sure.

voidraid