The Unhappy Rebellion of Radical Joy

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The New Discourses Podcast with James Lindsay, Ep. 147

We're hearing a lot about "joy" now that the Kamala Harris and Tim Walz campaign have made it a byword of their project, so we have to ask what they mean by it. We all know, by this point, that Communists share your vocabulary but do not share your dictionary. So what might they mean by "joy"? Well, it appears what they mean by joy is "radical joy," which is a kind of religious ecstasy associated with believing they are going to accomplish Communism, or at least their revolution. Radical joy is rooted in "critical hope" together with a certain anger, hatred, and libido dominandi, all as expressions of "erotic" energy seeking liberation. In Herbert Marcuse's words, it is "the joy of rebellious victims." In this episode of the New Discourses Podcast, host James Lindsay walks you through a variety of Marxist sources to discuss the concept of "radical joy" and reveal it for what it is. Join him to see through the mask of "joy"!

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"You'll own nothing, and you'll be happy" = Radical Joy

Gumbatron
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It's not joy. It's sadistic glee.

joesouthwell
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So they've gone from *"My truth"* to *"My joy."* Alrighty.

psychedelicsanctuary.
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None of those people would matter if they didn't have the power of the law, that is, violence, behind them.

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"The time would be easy to know, for then mankind would have become as the Great Old Ones; free and wild and beyond good and evil, with laws and morals thrown aside and all men shouting and killing and revelling in JOY. Then the liberated Old Ones would teach them new ways to shout and kill and revel and enjoy themselves, and all the earth would flame with a holocaust of ecstasy and
- HP Lovecraft, "The Call of Cthulhu"
(emphasis added)

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Do these people realize that they suffer from terminal stage four narcissism?

Rogerholberg
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The "Ren and Stimpy" song, "Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy, " is the hymn of radical joy.

abramgaller
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"Have you taken your Joy today" #WeHappyFew

Somehow more prophetic of Britain than I believed possible.

TumultuousTitan
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Makes sense why they see project 2025 as so bad, because their version actually is

CJB
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One of your most important podcasts. It's so important to understand the core psychology of Wokism and what structures the experiences of its adherents.

BTW, I'm a Buddhist and don't always agree with your takes on Buddhism but I appreciate your distinguishing it from Gnosticism here.

sterlingpratt
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Bullies identifying as victims - as a mental health professional, I can say this is exactly what I see in practice. Not every time, but more often than not.

mister--clean
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This episode of the New Discourses Podcast from James Lindsay is accessible in advance for members. It will be made public for everyone on Tuesday, September 3, 2024, at 2pm ET.

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So Bernie's enraged, about-to-burst-a-blood-vessel screaming of "Joy! Joy! Joy!" was an accurate capture of the movement.

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Just when I thought I was getting a handle on the depths of the ideological entanglements involved in wokeness, James Lindsay peels back yet another layer--this time by masterfully connecting the dots on multiple historical primary sources. Brilliant and troubling.

dudleymq
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Truly fantastic and helpful work, mister Lindsay. I study and learn from you, and have discussions with people to help dismantle the Woke spell

sd
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Thank you for translating this stuff. I never understood what the hell these "intellectuals" were talking about because i read the work at face value. Once i realized that they speak the words but mean something else it all started to make sense. I appreciate your work James.

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Grateful Dead dancing is another form of radical joy! But don't worry, Deadheads don't want to take over society.

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Positive approach with the inability to ignore, hijacked by shadow disagreeableness.

Emotional reaction, creating emotional reactions; emotionally reacting.

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Pedomorphosis is a biological phenomenon where an organism retains juvenile traits into adulthood. This process can occur in different ways and has been observed in various species, including humans. There are two main types:

1. **Neoteny**: This occurs when an organism reaches sexual maturity while still retaining its juvenile characteristics. For example, in some amphibians like the axolotl, the organism remains aquatic and gilled throughout its life, even though it is sexually mature.

2. **Progenesis**: This happens when an organism reaches sexual maturity earlier than usual, while still maintaining a juvenile appearance.

Pedomorphosis can be influenced by genetic and environmental factors and can have evolutionary advantages, such as adapting to specific ecological niches or maintaining advantageous juvenile traits throughout life. - ChatGPT

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Hillariously, I just saw an ad by Bernie Sanders on this video. He says, among other things, "Trump is a threat to our democracy" 😂

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